Comment on 8GB RAM in M3 MacBook Pro Proves the Bottleneck in Real-World Tests

• Iwasondigg@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t they also solder it to the motherboard so you can’t upgrade your RAM as well?

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  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not so much soldered to the motherboard as much as part of the same package as the CPU. As in: there are no separate memory chips.

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    • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But they did indeed solder it in before that, on their old Intel laptops. I think they started doing that in 2013 or 2014 but I forget exactly.

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      • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That has more to do with faster traces; the ram is “closer” to the CPU so the signal is cleaner.

        Not defending the move, I’d take upgradability in a laptop.

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    • EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is both great, and incredibly annoying because they selected 8gb as the base…

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    • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So wait- if you want to increase your RAM, you have to install a whole new CPU?

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      • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You buy a whole new Macbook

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      • lupec@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s soldered as well! It’s theoretically possible but way too involved for most to bother with hiring a professional to get it done or what have you.

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      • BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No, you just buy one with the amount of RAM you need.

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  • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lol, the ram is part of the m3 chip That’s a reason why it is so efficient. The storage in m3 is for RAM and videoRAM.

    Wikipedia: The M3’s Unified Memory Architecture features up to 24 GB RAM, the M3 Pro up to 36 GB, and the M3 Max up to 128 GB. Like the M2 generation, the M3 SoCs use 6,400 MT/s LPDDR5 SDRAM. As with prior M series SoCs, this serves as both RAM and video RAM.

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s literally how Intel integrated GPUs work too

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      • DarienGS@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        With Apple’s chips the RAM is all on the CPU die so both CPU and GPU get the performance benefit. With Intel’s, none of it is.

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      • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yea but the RAM is not on the located within the chip design, is it?

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  • Sendbeer@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well yeah, if you were paying $50 a GB wouldn’t you too? Got to lock that shit down!

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• xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How the fuck did Apple manage to be the largest company on the planet doing shit like this? Are Apple users really that fucking dumb?

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  • EatYouWell@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because they have an extremely consumer friendly UI/UX and a very stable OS.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And they’re much better at marketing than they are at making computers or phones. Apple is probably the most successful marketing company int he world.

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Their UI and UX is shit. You basically can’t use it for many basic tasks without installing a bunch of third party (proprietary and expensive) software.

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    • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not sure “friendly” is quite the right word… you can argue it’s well designed or cultivated users but Apple is anything but a "friend"ly.

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