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SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What’s annoying is that he’s good at pacing and creating intrigue. He just never knows how stick the landing without turning the plot into swiss cheese.

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  • scytale@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He’s a great visual director, but he needs a good writer to keep him on check.

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    • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Jorge is a fantastically creative guy. He needs limitations on that creativity, but he is undeniably a foundation of ideas.

        JJ Abrams mostly regurgitates without having any truly unique ideas. Especially in Star Wars and Trek, he took a bunch of the most surface level aspects from the franchises and threw them in without really doing anything with them.

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      • The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wait, is that what J. J. stands for?

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      • dejected_warp_core@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll add that this didn’t start with the SW prequel movies either. The various essays on the topic typically focus on The Phantom Menace to make this case (see: Red Letter Media); we do love to hate on that movie. But if you look to early drafts of the very first Star Wars movie script, it’s clear that it took a village to make it more than B-movie material. Also, the making-of stories are complete with every kind of move-making person improving and adding to our producer’s vision, right down to salvaging the whole mess in the editing room. It’s been a problem the entire time.

        Now I wonder if THX-1138 and American Graffiti have similar war-stories behind them.

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  • semi_sentient@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Creating intrigue is relatively straightforward if you don’t worry about sticking the landing.

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    • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yup. Have weird shit happen, don’t bothering explaining why.

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    • dejected_warp_core@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Basically, writing movies like running a 100% improvised DnD campaign. Which is to say it’s great, as long as your audience signed up for repeated intellectual kicks to the groin.

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  • Hugin@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is he good at pacing? His movies are just go go go go without any room to breathe.

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• sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Star Trek was too philosophical. So I fixed it.” -JJ Abrams

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