Cannot use logic to convince someone whose argument isn’t logical in the first place
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altima_neo@lemmy.zip 11 months agoI guess whatever it takes to convince the skeptics. Though I figure nothing will convince them once they’ve made up their mind.
Player2@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I’ve always preferred it phrased as “You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into,” but same energy.
Hobo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I always preferred the Mark Twain quote, “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” Because I’ve been beaten bloody with that experience on more than one occasion.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Or: “It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are it’ll knock over your pieces and shit on the board”
kescusay@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t like calling them “skeptics,” because what they really are is super-gullible with regards to conspiracy theories.
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Science deniers” is a better description.
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Step 1. Ask what someone thinks about vaccinations Step 2. Ask them what they think about evolution Step 3. Ask about climate change Step 4. Ask about what church they go to
You will learn so much of this overlaps. So much.
LillyPip@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Flat earth. Crystals. Cupping.
Anything to avoid the reality that we’re fucking up society and the planet in favour of ‘we can fix it with woo’ or ‘it’s preordained that we’re all gonna die in god’s wrath-fire’. Neither will lift a finger to fix things.
Nobody wants to live in reality because it’s scary.
PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
There was real reason to be skeptical at first. mRNA vaccines have been in the works for decades and they had just gotten some that work well, then rushed it through. Drug companies aren’t known for being conservative with claims when there’s money to be made.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
“I don’t know… those first fifty studies of vaccine safety didn’t sway me. Maybe 51 will”