Comment on Petition demands that Microsoft extends Windows 10 support

NightOwl@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It killed my dog :(

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  • DahGangalang@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Funny, Windows 10 dilled my kog.

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• Stovetop@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Some valid, a lot overblown. Take everything with a grain of salt.

  A lot of people on Lemmy revere Linux to the point that Windows anything is a dirty word, so negative qualities are amplified quite substantially in discussions here.

  I use Windows 11 daily on my personal laptop. As (what I am assuming to be) a typical end user, I will say I don’t hate or love it any more than Windows 10. But I’ve never been one to nitpick over small details as much as others seem to.

  I’m generally unfazed by start menu changes because I access the majority of my apps by just typing the name into the start menu. The dedicated search button in Windows 10 is superfluous for that reason, so I never used it and don’t miss it. Rounded corners vs straight corners in the UI is essentially meaningless. And while Windows 11 currently does not allow you to reposition the taskbar to other sides of the screen, Windows 10 doesn’t allow the taskbar and start menu to be centered, so pick your poison.

  I think the right click context menu is improved in Windows 11 over 10.

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  • cartography_cat@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s interesting, the right click menu change has personally been driving me bonkers haha. I guess it’s cleaner looking? But they removed most contextual options, so it’s extra clicks or a button combo to get at what I’m looking for now.

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• knotthatone@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly, a bit of both. It probably gets more hate than it deserves but there’s a lot of pointless change just for the sake of changing things. It’s better than Win10 on a Surface, touch screen and pen support have improved. But beyond that, I don’t really see a reason to jump to it until they force the issue by ending support for 10.

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• Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tried it for the first time today and I hated it. Everything I organized for the start menu is gone and they replaced it with a stupid apps menu. It definitely runs sluggishly.

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• thejml@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly, I ended up with 11 after years on 10, and I don’t find it nearly as horrible as everyone makes it out to be. It took some tweaking and a few tricks, but it’s fine and useable for what I do. I certainly spent less time futzing with Win 11 to run games than I ever did Linux.

  That said, I haven’t been able to use windows for serious work/development since the 90’s… i only really boot up windows for gaming, so ymmv. For the most part that all works out of the box. For dev/ops work I’m a Linux or (since my work doesn’t allow Linux anymore) MacOS guy, which is much better workflow and capability-wise than Windows. IMHO.

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• simonced@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  buttons in taskbar (for app) grouped and can’t be ungrouped, killing my workflow. piece of garbage…

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  • Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Look like Microsoft added it back in recent update

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    • simonced@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thaqnks for the heads up, I remember having read somewhere this should be coming back, but my system didn’t receive that update as it seems… I’ll wait and see.

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• sour@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  can't have sideways taskbar

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  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is a primary reason I’m not upgrading, aside from the fact that I will drop W10 for all my computers for Linux at End of Support.

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• slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use it every day for work, used 10 before that. Overall fine, similar to 10. Some things were annoying after the switch, but some things are also better. It also helped that I held out for a few months, as the people switching first had a lot of initial problems with the new laptops and 11.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use Win11 on my gaming rig and on my work pc by choice.
  Gaming Rig (Ryzen 7 7800X3D):
  Desktop environment is a slight downgrade but they are slowly reworking the whole UI. Though I really enjoy to customize my environment to my liking and probably bump more into edge cases than the average joe.
  MS becomes more pushy with their subscription models but those can be ignored.
  Windows Updates generally work well.

  Office Rig (HP Elitebook i5 8th gen):
  My laptop needed an upgrade from 8 to 16gb to run more smoothly. Same UI issues but it’s workable.

  I like the new explorer though.

  On my NAS/home server I use Debian 11 and am pretty happy so far.

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  • ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    More ram will probably not help your laptop out with performance unless your running ram intensive programs if I were you consider upgrading your boot drive if things are running slow

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Problem is multiple programs + web browser sucking ram.
      Wirh 8GB I was continuesly red lining 95% utilization.
      VoIP App, multiple tabs and windows of Chrome/Firefox/Edge (what the application is optimized for), Outlook, Teams, Spotify (to stay sane) and misc. other programs quickly suck up 8gb.

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    • PleasantAura@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Windows often uses 8GB at idle for me with a single browser window open due to how much background BS it runs that is entirely irrelevant to anything I use the PC for. I upgraded to 32GB, then just finally decided to switch to Linux for good because it uses around 4-5GB with 10+ programs open (and most of that is Steam and Discord being inefficient).

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      • ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Windows tends to use at least a quarter of system ram anyways

        As long as you got enough storage for page fileing you should be aokay

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• GigglyBobble@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well, it got worse again, like basically every Windows except for 7. The real issue is that arbitrarily chose not to support certain "old" hardware.

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• fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use windows 10 and 11. Most of the complaints I see about 11 apply just as much to 10. Very little of the big complaints I see about 11 are just about it. The ones that are actually unique are more subjective (the UI changes which have gotten a lot better).

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• Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Win11 is basically just UI lift to Win10, the core OS is exactly same.

  They dropped lot of support (ie11, classic bios, non-tpm2.0, 32-bit), which most are IMO just good because it forces adoption. I think those are overblown, people just hate the UI changes.

  Been using it since the launch, and the issues have mainly been similar to just win 10 build upgrade issues.

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• ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The big one that really bothers me is that soooo many perfectly good computers cannot run it. Their hardware restrictions are absurd. My desktop has an i9-9820X, which was released at the end of 2018, and I’m not able to upgrade. I have 4 computers that all run great and run Windows and only one of them is able to upgrade. Windows 11 will likely result in a lot of e-waste (and a lot of people switching to Linux, myself included).

  I don’t really care too much about the other differences, Windows 11 is just like Windows 10 except they moved a bunch of stuff around. It could have all just been an update to 10.

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• nihth@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Was forced to switch to 11 on my work laptop so now I’m working on transitioning to Linux for work. In 11 you have to fight the os more than ever to get the experience you want. I used a program to change Explorer to be similar to how it was on 10, and when I switched back to the default one it’s very noticeably slower than custom. It’s especially noticeable when sharing screen in teams, it feels very slow and laggy, crashes frequently.

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• mojo@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes, it’s a straight upgrade over win10, but the UI isn’t nearly as good imo

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s not terrible but it takes some fiddling initially to make it look like a real Windows install.

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