Comment on Privacy advocate challenges YouTube's ad blocking detection

• query@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A monopoly trying to lock in browsers isn’t going to last in the EU.

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ehh maybe, widevine exists for drm already. They will just claim its an extension of that.

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• MasterBuilder@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Anti-trust lawsuit in 3… 2…

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I hope they get annihilated by that lawsuit.

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• MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They recently added what amounts to drm for the entire Internet to chrome

  This will be legally chalkrnged later, if it is not opt-in.

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Eh, probably. But it’s for fighting those darned internet pirates, and the only body that seems to protect us anymore, the eu, seems to be all for that. So I’m.not expecting anything good

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    • maynarkh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What makes you think the EU is for internet monopolies after the DMA?

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They are all for copyright protection, the current copyright reform act proposes automatic scanners installed to prevent copywritten content from being displayed without authorization

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• hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The moment they try to do that is the moment that Google gets broken up.

  I hope they try, because they WILL get assfucked into submission.

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  • einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nope i doubt that. Google is ‘to big to fail’ its a fundamental pillar of american force projection in the cyberspace.

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• Vendul@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don‘t even worry. Some clever dudes will find a way to spoof Chrome with a Firefox extension

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a drm system, so we’re talking end to end encryption from server to display, but for evil. It’s not a spoof thing

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    • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even in the US, a corporate monopoly trying to force people to use their browser will trigger an antitrust lawsuit from the government. Microsoft has already faced one for what they did with Edge, and they didn’t even do DRM.

      Besides, it’s YouTube. If you can’t use it anymore, it’s not gonna be the end of the world.

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not that simple, it’s not forcing everyone to use chrome, it’s denying access to copyrighted material to drmed browsers only. This is something that already happens and no one seems to want to break things up around that. Infaft they seem to legislate more for that.

        And sure today it’s youtube, but this is actually a form of drm for everything. Today youtube tomorrow everything else.

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• Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If they want their services to instantly die, sure.

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  • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ah, you forget that the general population is perfectly OK with inconveniences.

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Majority of people already use chrome

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• AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People are acting as if losing YouTube and other Google services is the end of the world. It is not. You don’t need Google, even if you use Android.

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• yukichigai@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That would be easy to challenge under the same reasoning as what's in the article, not to mention various anti-trust laws and ones covering anti-competitive business practices.

  Doesn't mean it's guaranteed to stop them, but it's definitely not going to be as easy as them flipping a few switches and saying "watch ads on our browser with no addons or GTFO".

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  • Sheeple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Most importantly, such a move would kill YouTube as a platform. Removing other browsers from the picture would cut off a majority of their viewers

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Safari and chrome have the Web drm already. It’s really just Firefox that gets cut off.

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• Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I stopped using Chrome about 3 weeks ago. Used Edge for a while but finding out that is Chromium, I landed back on Firefox after 10 years of not using it. Just moved all my bookmarks and plugins.

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• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So I’ll use something that isn’t chrome? Well, they will just block Firefox from YouTube.

  Fast track to getting people to stop using YouTube. No service or company is immune to this.

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  • whale@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    While I agree with you in theory, I’m not sure how it would go in practice. The percent of people not using Chrome or a Chrome clone is, at this point, in the single digits. And since they have de facto control over the internet, it’s pretty easy to force other browsers to do what they want.

    Although, come to think of it, DRM didn’t really prevent people from ripping Netflix or Amazon content, or even streaming it on something like Discord.

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    • Sheeple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • whale@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        According to what metric? I’ve never seen Firefox top the list. Right now it’s hovering at 4% to 8% of all browsers, depending on who you believe.

        en.wikipedia.org/…/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

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