Comment on Privacy advocate challenges YouTube's ad blocking detection

Sheeple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So, they’ve already won. They just haven’t turned on the nuclear option yet.

  They recently added what amounts to drm for the entire Internet to chrome, it is a way for them to disallow access to YouTube and other services via anything but an approved browser. This would include approved extensions.

  So I’ll use something that isn’t chrome? Well, they will just block Firefox from YouTube. Making chrome and chrome derivatives via its Internet drm the only option.

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  • query@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A monopoly trying to lock in browsers isn’t going to last in the EU.

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ehh maybe, widevine exists for drm already. They will just claim its an extension of that.

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  • MasterBuilder@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Anti-trust lawsuit in 3… 2…

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    • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hope they get annihilated by that lawsuit.

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  • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They recently added what amounts to drm for the entire Internet to chrome

    This will be legally chalkrnged later, if it is not opt-in.

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Eh, probably. But it’s for fighting those darned internet pirates, and the only body that seems to protect us anymore, the eu, seems to be all for that. So I’m.not expecting anything good

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      • maynarkh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What makes you think the EU is for internet monopolies after the DMA?

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  • hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The moment they try to do that is the moment that Google gets broken up.

    I hope they try, because they WILL get assfucked into submission.

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    • einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nope i doubt that. Google is ‘to big to fail’ its a fundamental pillar of american force projection in the cyberspace.

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  • Vendul@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don‘t even worry. Some clever dudes will find a way to spoof Chrome with a Firefox extension

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s a drm system, so we’re talking end to end encryption from server to display, but for evil. It’s not a spoof thing

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      • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even in the US, a corporate monopoly trying to force people to use their browser will trigger an antitrust lawsuit from the government. Microsoft has already faced one for what they did with Edge, and they didn’t even do DRM.

        Besides, it’s YouTube. If you can’t use it anymore, it’s not gonna be the end of the world.

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  • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If they want their services to instantly die, sure.

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    • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ah, you forget that the general population is perfectly OK with inconveniences.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Majority of people already use chrome

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  • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People are acting as if losing YouTube and other Google services is the end of the world. It is not. You don’t need Google, even if you use Android.

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  • yukichigai@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That would be easy to challenge under the same reasoning as what's in the article, not to mention various anti-trust laws and ones covering anti-competitive business practices.

    Doesn't mean it's guaranteed to stop them, but it's definitely not going to be as easy as them flipping a few switches and saying "watch ads on our browser with no addons or GTFO".

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    • Sheeple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Most importantly, such a move would kill YouTube as a platform. Removing other browsers from the picture would cut off a majority of their viewers

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Safari and chrome have the Web drm already. It’s really just Firefox that gets cut off.

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  • Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I stopped using Chrome about 3 weeks ago. Used Edge for a while but finding out that is Chromium, I landed back on Firefox after 10 years of not using it. Just moved all my bookmarks and plugins.

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  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So I’ll use something that isn’t chrome? Well, they will just block Firefox from YouTube.

    Fast track to getting people to stop using YouTube. No service or company is immune to this.

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    • whale@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      While I agree with you in theory, I’m not sure how it would go in practice. The percent of people not using Chrome or a Chrome clone is, at this point, in the single digits. And since they have de facto control over the internet, it’s pretty easy to force other browsers to do what they want.

      Although, come to think of it, DRM didn’t really prevent people from ripping Netflix or Amazon content, or even streaming it on something like Discord.

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• Alby003@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nice imagination.

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• lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Even with Google money?

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  • yukichigai@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not even Microsoft in its monolith days was able to spend enough money to stop a legion of angry nerds with a severe case of "fuck you, you can't tell me what to do".

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