Imagine a long day chasing a deer on foot for 10km, drag it back home, and then start playing Monster Hunter while your group preparing the meal. That would be the bestest day.
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Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 3 weeks agoLol who needs videogames when you are literally free to do what you want?
Edit: I would miss videogames and i would probably be slimed in one week. It was lowkenuinely a joke.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t know, being a hunter gatherer won’t let me live the power fantasy of being Batman. I can’t pull all those slick moves in real life!
CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Uh. Me! When I get bored I read, or play a game, or watch a movie. Not that I’d be bored because I’d be trying not to die in a primitive society.
Kwiila@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
That’s the thing, you’d only be spending the same small percentage of time vs location trying not to die (as per Palestine or Ukraine, or your country if 9/11 or WW3). Lifestyle would have most of the rest covered, same as trying not to die now. History & Wildlife documentaries only cover the most exciting parts. If nature was like that all the time, nothing could live.
So you could listen to a story (with your community), play a game (with your community), or watch the community drama.
The big misery is the healthcare being varying degrees of a guessing game, and extremely low levels of convenience. You can’t just walk 15 minutes, grab a handful of berries, a steak, and a potato then go fuck off with (some) family and ignore everyone else.
Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
I guess you have the freedom but not the ability
Zombie@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
As is the case now.
Are you free, really? Free to do what? To live as you please? To do what you please?
Let’s see. How do you live? What does your freedom amount to?
You depend on your employer for your wages or your salary, don’t you? And your wages determine your way of living, don’t they? The conditions of your life, even what you eat and drink, where you go and with whom you associate, — all of it depends on your wages.
No, you are not a free man. You are dependent on your employer and on your wages. You are really a wage slave.
The whole working class, under the capitalist system, is dependent on the capitalist class. The workers are wage slaves.
So, what becomes of your freedom? What can you do with it? Can you do more with it than your wages permit?
Can’t you see that your wage — your salary or income — is all the freedom that you have? Your freedom, your liberty, don’t go a step further than the wages you get.
The freedom that is given you on paper, that is written down in law books and constitutions, does not do you a bit of good. Such freedom only means that you have the right to do a certain thing. But it doesn’t mean that you can do it. To be able to do it, you must have the chance, the opportunity. You have a right to eat three fine meals a day, but if you haven’t the means, the opportunity to get those meals, then what good is that right to you?
So freedom really means opportunity to satisfy your needs and wants. If your freedom does not give you that opportunity, than it does you no good. Real freedom means opportunity and well-being. If it does not mean that, it means nothing.
from Now and After by Alexander Berkman, Chapter 3: Law and Government. Available to read for free here.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
But roaming the savanna with some stinky people, scavenging won’t give you the freedom to whatever as well. Don’t want to add to the pile of food because today you’re not feeling it? They’ll kick you out and you’ll get eaten by wolves by next Tuesday.
Edit: Hate it all you want, you’re not alone and in a society there are rules. Getting rid of capitalists is a good idea, but you’ll still have to contribute to the pile. Just way less and with a purpose beyond creating the next billionaire.
But complete freedom comes with complete loneliness. And all on your own, you’ll have a hard time.
Zombie@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Who said anything about being alone?
One of the core tenets of anarcho-communism (which this book is explaining and advocating for) is mutual aid.
Anarchy doesn’t mean no rules, it means no rulers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_aid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Aid:_A_Factor_of_Evolution
Therefore I must tell you, first of all, what Anarchism is not.
It is not bombs, disorder, or chaos.
It is not robbery and murder.
It is not a war of each against all.
It is not a return to barbarism or to the wild state of man.
Anarchism is the very opposite of all that.
Anarchism means that you should be free; that no one should enslave you, boss you, rob you, or impose upon you.
It means that you should be free to do the things you want to do; and that you should not be compelled to do what you don’t want to do.
It means that you should have a chance to choose the kind of a life you want to live, and live it without anybody interfering.
It means that the next fellow should have the same freedom as you, that every one should have the same rights and liberties.
Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
I mean absolutely. And in the tribal past you wouldn’t have had many of the global and even regional supply systems we now have making much of our (limited) life possible now
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
…you can code and learn coding by yourself
Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Are you writing code on a cave wall while the rest of the tribe keeps you fed or what’s the deal
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
You think technological progress only happens when profits are being generated or what is your thing?
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
you can probably find something that runs DOOM