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Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A you support your claim? Raspberry py offers a Linux based computer and you can install whatever the hell you want on it.

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  • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I’d like a source too because what they said makes no sense. The immature way they responded to criticism of someone they hired is a good reason to be turned off of the pi, no need to actually make up something ridiculous.

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    • Adanisi@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think they’re referring to that one time they installed a Microsoft repo on Raspbian without permission.

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      • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Thanks, that makes more sense. According to an article on ars it doesn’t actually install anything so I don’t see their problem. All they have to do is comment out the line or just use a different distribution.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=303549

      arstechnica.com/…/raspberry-pi-os-added-a-microso…

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      • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Explain how adding a Microsoft repo that doesn’t actually install anything is the same as giving Microsoft access to your device?

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=303549

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  • Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ha! I mean yeah Micro$oft is bad but honestly, VScode is so useful. Unless you’re a Vim hardcore VScode is the way to go imo.

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• ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lots of things to criticize rPi foundation for, but this is just goofy BS.

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  • ricdeh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not the foundation. They’re not the ones who’ve funked up the product, it was and is the stupid profit-driven sister corporation to which they’ve outsourced design and manufacturing. The foundation exists only for educarional stuff now.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My wife still uses the hardware, but with only Debian on it.
      Personally they lost me fucking around like that.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    arstechnica.com/…/raspberry-pi-os-added-a-microso…

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    • bilb@lem.monster ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You keep posting this article but it explains clearly why it’s not a big deal.

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      • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I just found the article to prove that it happened.

        You then have to ask why it wasn’t announced, and why they changed the practice?

        There are several problems about it, which I stated elsewhere in this thread. You may think they are not an issue, and that’s OK.
        But I DO think it’s a serious issue, in part for the reasons stated previously.

        No I think I’m out of here, this is not something that actually has my interest anymore, since we use Debian on our old Pi’s , and will not buy any more.

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• BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just read the article. That’s bad.

  I don’t care that I can remove the repo, I’d still have to block MS to prevent an RPi update from re-adding a repo that can replace core files.

  What kind of BS is that author peddling? The bottom line is “if it can be done, it’s a bad thing”, that goodwill argument is a bunch of whitewashing.

  Plus, I don’t WANT VS on my Pi. The “help learning students” argument is also BS. VS is difficult to install because it’s not native, and this is a reality for tech users. Better approach would be clear documentation on how to install VS, explaining the how’s and why’s along the way. If it’s “too hard” to write such documentation or for students to follow it, then that person is clearly not qualified to write it.

  I’ve written TONS of docs just like this for enterprise app deployment. It’s SOP there. If a test unit fails to successfully rebuild a system using my docs, it’s not the tester’s fault, it’s a fault of my docs not being complete or clear enough.

  Every enterprise has teams that document everying to the extreme for disaster recovery - the idea being that anyone technical can walk in and rebuild an entire system from your docs.

  Thanks for the link.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t get it. From what I can tell, they added {{/etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list}} with a third-party MS repository . . . and that’s it. You can now do {{sudo apt install code}} and get VS Code installed. If you don’t want VS Code, then don’t install it. At worst, Microsoft gets a log entry of you downloading the package list every time you do {{sudo apt update}}.

    I don’t really like VS Code, myself, but it’s becoming something of an industry standard. Even in environments that are otherwise Linux-based. Lots of my coworkers use it even though we deploy on Linux. Making it easier for students to install is understandable.

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    • macattack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m also confused, and I say this as someone who uses Debian as their main driver.

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• arc@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There was a Windows 10 IOT build for Raspberry Pi. Basically a stripped down Windows without a desktop for embedded uses. Nobody was forced to use it and probably very few people ever did.

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• CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Based on that URL, this only applies to RaspberryPi OS but you’re in no way required to even use it.

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