Comment on Scrollbars are becoming a problem

Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• NewNewAccount@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The overuse of the word enshittification drives me crazy.

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  • agent_flounder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Enshittification of “enshittification”

    /s

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    • elxeno@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Enshittiception

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      • abcxyz@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ekshuliiii… it should be Enshittificursion or Reshittification. Inception means something else.

        I’ll show myself out.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, it has a very specific meaning, and people are now using it to mean “things becoming shitty”. Just because “shit” is the base word doesn’t mean that’s what the whole word means.

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    • Iamdanno@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Enshittification doesn’t mean “thing gets shittier”? Who knew?!

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      • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        From Wikipedia:

        Enshittification, also known as platform decay,[1] is a way to describe the pattern of decreasing quality of online platforms that act as two-sided markets.

        From the guy who coined the term itself:

        Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

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  • ubermeisters@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, thank you! I thought I was the only one I feel like an old man yelling at the clouds every time I see it.

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    • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe listen to that feeling.

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      • ubermeisters@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        GOT EEM

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  • Steeve@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Feels like it’s always been a buzzword for whatever someone doesn’t like right now

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  • burliman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thank you. I think it was overused even the moment it was used for its intended purpose. It feels really im14andthisisedgy to me.

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    • atetulo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m actually really glad we’re hearing it.

      It’s a sign that people are finally starting to have higher standards.

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    • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And I think this is a dumb take, considering who coined the word and why. It’s a variation of “I hate anything trendy or popular”.

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  • chris@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Underuse IMO. We’ve grown complacent in so many regards.

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  • atetulo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What do you mean ‘overuse’?

    It’s just now entering our vernacular.

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  • ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are they wrong for using a word correctly? Or are you wrong for being a bitch about it? Hmmm.

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  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s Lemmy’s “play stupid games…” variant

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  • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yup, and when I used it, I knew someone would bitch about that. It’s funny how people get hung up on their pet peeve more than they do the more serious underlying issues we’re talking about here. It’s the same phenomenon politicians and wealthy elites use to keep us fighting each other over trivial culture war bullshit instead of pulling together to improve our material interests.

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• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Buy!!!?

  [YES SPEND ALL MY MONEY]

  [no]

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  • ubermeisters@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Then you go to click [no] and the web page magically loads something else above it, which moves the page contents, forcing you to click the [yes].

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  • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    LOL, harsh facts right here.

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• _number8_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  applying any design language feels wrong. it’s pure manipulation – i remember being forced onto the official twitter app and couldn’t believe there wasn’t a scroll bar. i felt lost; the timeline felt infinite, swallowing

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  • I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They want you doom scrolling.

    It's one reason I like kbin. I'll read to page 5 and that's my limit for a session. Endless scrolling is annoying.

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    • snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      On kbin you have the choice to set it to doom scroll if you want.

      Choice is the important thing with something like doom scrolling.

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      • I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes.

        I also like upvote and downvote separated. Some apps don't have that option.

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• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I would are that the design industry has gotten better about understanding a user’s core motivations, and how design can solve business problems, but it’s gotten worse at classic interaction design / HCI.

  The UX industry is FULL of bootcamp people or former graphic designers who never really studied or were passionate about interaction models.

  As with engineering, the demand for UX designers is so high that a lot of mediocre talent can easily get a gig.

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  • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Those scenarios you paint definitely exist.

    In my decades of work experience, I’ve also seen it play out a few ways. Sometimes the shop creating the software is too cheap to hire a real UX designer, and they make some poor coder do their best with it (and the coder will usually admit they are not good at it and is frustrated with being coerced into it). Sometimes they hire a good UX person, but that person is constantly overridden / micromanaged by some “marketing genius” MBA type with horrible ideas of user behaviors they want to “push” and other behaviors they want to “disincentivize” in the UX.

    On a few (rare) projects, I’ve seen it done correctly where the UX designer is considered a vital part of the team and their input is valued and they do a good job and focus on what users actually want and need.

    Some businesses still understand that if your customers are happy, everything else tends to go better for your businesses. But in this era of relentless enshittification, more and more businesses are looking at their customers at naughty children and/or suckers to be exploited. I keep hoping for a massive backlash against this trend. But it feels like it has to get even worse before it will get any better. They have conditioned younger customers to just expect shit products, shit service, and shit subscriptions for everything. UX design has gotten caught up in this sea change, unfortunately.

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