Comment on Apple AirTags stalking led to ruin and murders, lawsuit says

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wonder if Apple could give an option for the anti stalking to android. If they could but they aren’t, that could be an argument that they are making stalking easier to promote their ecosystem.

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  • TheEntity@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They already did, except you need to be willing to install a proprietary Apple application. Still a de facto data ransom.

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    • clegko@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That used to be the case, but Apple and Google worked together recently to make it work just like on iPhone - no need for a 3rd party app or anything to notify you if an Airtag is with you.

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      • USSEthernet@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hmm, I didn’t know this. I checked and it’s enabled. However, the last scan was 11 days ago. Doesn’t seem very useful if it’s not scanning that often.

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      • guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it limited to a notification though? The phone and the tag have to communicate with each other in order to send the ping. It should be as easy as a setting on your phone that says “do not process airtag data.”

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  • rozPierog@lemdro.id ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Android can show you alerts even without the Apple app support.google.com/android/answer/13658562?hl=en

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can get this same functionality with airguard

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  • kirklennon@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wonder if Apple could give an option for the anti stalking to android.

    Apple and Google collaborated on a specification for this and anti-stalking rolled out to Android in August.

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    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Great! This lawsuit is even more silly then.

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  • stopthatgirl7@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’ve put out an android app that will notify people of AirTags, so they already have. But, as is kinda obvious, not so many people know about it.

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    • Zectivi@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The pixels seem to have it by default. I don’t have the Apple app, but my phone will tell me the airtag on my keys was following me. It’s pointless though, because it shows up a couple hours after the fact.

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      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s not pointless at all. Stalking is typically an ongoing activity.

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• Lemmitor@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If the court certified a class of people alleging a claim against Apple based on damages incurred as a result of the AirTag products, the case, at the very least, deserves to be heard on its merits.

  I don’t think it’s unreasonable that something like this would go to trial. The questions of what statutes, if any, has Apple violated and what liability Apple should hold deserve to be answered in a court of equity.

  Now whether the final ruling will be fair and just depends on your view of our system of civil courts and the doctrine of stare decisis.

  Think of it this way; if the court agrees with you, then there is precedent set that implies corporations may not have liability under a set of circumstances similar to the ones described in this article. There are broader implications of the question that go beyond Apple.

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• CoderKat@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think it’s a standard case of people suing the one who has money. Stalkers don’t have much (if any) money. Apple has much money. It’s a dumb lawsuit IMO, but there’s generally no penalty for frivolous or misplaced lawsuits (and this is probably on the border where it’s dumb but not frivolous).

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  • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are you serious? My ex brought in a grand on a short week.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Apples “airtags” are proprietary

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• Maeve@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As someone who’s ex kept me in misery for several years without one, I respectfully disagree.

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• guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I know how much this community looooves to shit in Apple, but this case is completely asinine.

  It’s so dumb how people say “this community” and they it on every community. It’s not a specific community; it’s people in general.

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