P.S. I’ve read a bit about specifics of Egyptian homelesness problem. I see that the problem for the big part, here is a bit of diferent kind of nature… than in long term (almost permanent) refugies camps, or former Gaza strip (as an egample), where almost everything is/was suplied.
Seams, that Egyptian goverment doesn’t even know (have exact criteria) whom to count as a homeless ones there and lot’s of people seam to be living in undeveloped self-build slums without improving the enviroment themselves further or for better. It’s hard to understand – is it because it is good enougth for them as is, or that they have diferent priorities or no good leadership. Anyway even if full support is not provided, or only partial is – living in whatever shelter in africa south is much, much easyer than in (as for example) in north europe, where it would be a certain death at the first winter, or even as early as autumn. Maybe north people (and societies) been forced by nature elements to become more self incentivised (othervise death) to take care of enviroment and homes development up to the level, or maybe in north simply nobody survived it in enough amounts to procreate endles generations of homeless up to astonishing 12 milion numbers. Such number of people can build a country and we are talking about what if 10% of them took a part (atleast two hours per day) in helping to build and develop their enviroment themselves. My first question stands – how many homeless is needed to build a house for themselves? I’ll just corect it with adding – and to improve, develop enviroment around it.
gmtom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So you want to make a scrab material slum? With no infrastructure like running water or sewage?
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I suppose anything is possible if you take human dignity out of the equation.
4L3moNemo@programming.dev 1 year ago
Do they chose to do not work for the good of themselves and not to inprove their enviroment, because of their dignity? Do “feeders” and supporters think they improve dignity of the feeded ones, by keeping needfull ones dependant with constant support?
4L3moNemo@programming.dev 1 year ago
And whats wrong in building infrastructure by themselves? Diging up watter, clay, making what ever things civilization done thousands years? Other (e.g. north countries) people do it even then they have to grow their own food, fight the cold and bad seasond in parallel. Here we have all food, minimum shelter from elements, even medicine already provided. And yet, where is the progress? Whats wrong in that whole support process then?
gmtom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You think you could build a functioning, sanitary sewer without any training or education
uncertainty@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
If you can get people to leave the pile alone long enough, composting is safe and yields a useful end product humanurehandbook.com
4L3moNemo@programming.dev 1 year ago
You think you can read, I thought you could. ;) Because I specifically mentioned quot: taken than the leadership is provided …
and that implies all kinds of leadership. Helping to organize, management, help of qualified engineers, consultations and their services, overseers in the field, and/or training specialists. It’s not that it is a rocket science, and we are not talking about skyscrapers. Any body can be a builder after some explaining, if we are talking about single store simple hause with running watter, sewer. And anybody can dig and lay pipes. Hell, they already had ramp, lever, clay brics, stone blocs, ropes, paper, maths, and even a wheel there, more than a 5 thausand years ago. More than 2 thousands years ago they already had there a water wheel, pipes and other water technologies. It is not that a rocket science is needed to develop the enviroment. It can be needed if we want to do it fast, labour and economicaly efective, but that is not a case here. We are talking about supported people – it’s not that they use their time efectively now or will lose something by taking two hours per day to improve their enviroment themselves.