Comment on why doesn't Egypt open its borders to Gaza?

kglitch@kglitch.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• 4L3moNemo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have a question. How many homeles people do we need to build a house, taken than stones, clay and sticks are available (or provided)? People once build pyramids there. World is anyway supporting them with food and a means to live – can’t the leadership be provided too (if they can’t organize themselves)? Can’t able to work build the houses for themselves and others? What do they do all day?

  P.S. and I understand than not everybody can work, some have health issues - but hey, we are talking about 12milion, sure there are atleast 120k able to work persons in that crowd, who could work for 2 hours per day each.

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  • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So you want to make a scrab material slum? With no infrastructure like running water or sewage?

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I suppose anything is possible if you take human dignity out of the equation.

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      • 4L3moNemo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do they chose to do not work for the good of themselves and not to inprove their enviroment, because of their dignity? Do “feeders” and supporters think they improve dignity of the feeded ones, by keeping needfull ones dependant with constant support?

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    • 4L3moNemo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And whats wrong in building infrastructure by themselves? Diging up watter, clay, making what ever things civilization done thousands years? Other (e.g. north countries) people do it even then they have to grow their own food, fight the cold and bad seasond in parallel. Here we have all food, minimum shelter from elements, even medicine already provided. And yet, where is the progress? Whats wrong in that whole support process then?

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      • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You think you could build a functioning, sanitary sewer without any training or education

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  • 4L3moNemo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    P.S. I’ve read a bit about specifics of Egyptian homelesness problem. I see that the problem for the big part, here is a bit of diferent kind of nature… than in long term (almost permanent) refugies camps, or former Gaza strip (as an egample), where almost everything is/was suplied.

    Seams, that Egyptian goverment doesn’t even know (have exact criteria) whom to count as a homeless ones there and lot’s of people seam to be living in undeveloped self-build slums without improving the enviroment themselves further or for better. It’s hard to understand – is it because it is good enougth for them as is, or that they have diferent priorities or no good leadership. Anyway even if full support is not provided, or only partial is – living in whatever shelter in africa south is much, much easyer than in (as for example) in north europe, where it would be a certain death at the first winter, or even as early as autumn. Maybe north people (and societies) been forced by nature elements to become more self incentivised (othervise death) to take care of enviroment and homes development up to the level, or maybe in north simply nobody survived it in enough amounts to procreate endles generations of homeless up to astonishing 12 milion numbers. Such number of people can build a country and we are talking about what if 10% of them took a part (atleast two hours per day) in helping to build and develop their enviroment themselves. My first question stands – how many homeless is needed to build a house for themselves? I’ll just corect it with adding – and to improve, develop enviroment around it.

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  • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are there official spaces where they would be allowed to build?

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• flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Damn, that’s tough!

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