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viralJ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Happenchance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes. In the same way that “Master” and “Slave” have been replaced for racist engineering terminology, “Whitelist” and “Blacklist” are replaced with “Allowlist” and “Blocklist”.

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  • coffeeaddict@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do these terms actually come from racist backgrounds, or did they come up as a coincidence?

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    • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No. It’s a coincidence.

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      • Happenchance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        While the term blacklist does not originate from racist history, it has certainly been adopted by racists before computers, while terms like master and slave have clear links to slavery as a human history: in either case the terms along with others were found to be offensive to a large population and have since been changed to reflect human decency.

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  • at_an_angle@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t care. I’m still using white and black list.

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    • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Stand proud with the other bigots who still use “fag,” “retarded,” and the N word after looking over their shoulder

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      • at_an_angle@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m a bigot because I use the terms white and black list?

        Don’t hurt yourself stretching that hard.

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  • DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve been out of it. What do we call “Master” and "Slave " drives now?

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    • hundo@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We call them obsolete.

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    • SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Privileged drives and economilcally-and-socially-disadvanted-due-to-historical-injustices drives. The last ones a bit of a mouthful, so you can use EASDDTHJ drives.

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    • Happenchance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      From Wikipedia:

      Various replacement terms for ‘master’ or ‘slave’ have been proposed and implemented. In 2020, GitHub replaced the default ‘master’ git branch with ‘main’.[18] Other replacement names include ‘default’, ‘primary’, ‘controller’, ‘root’, ‘initiator’, ‘leader’, ‘director’, ‘manager’; and for ‘slave’: ‘performer’, ‘worker’, ‘peripheral’, ‘responder’, ‘device’, ‘replica’, ‘satellite’, and ‘secondary’.[18][6][21][22][23] Python switched to ‘main’, ‘parent’, and ‘server’; and ‘worker’, ‘child’, and ‘helper’, depending on context.[7][24] The Linux kernel has adopted a similar policy to use more specific terms in new code or documentation.[22] Other projects and standards have used alternative terms since their inception.

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    • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you use a time machine to go back to 2001 when that was last a thing, you can still use the original terminology. Otherwise you will never need the terms since those concepts no longer exist for drives.

      Outside of drives there are plenty of self explanatory terms like primary and secondary which work fine.

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      • DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Coincidentally that’s the year I finished grad school and was probably at the peak of my tech savviness. Things have changed a lot since then. On all fronts.

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      • Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wouldn’t say they no longer exist… ide still occasionally used for optical drives…

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    • jimbolauski@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Owner and ownee?

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  • cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    it is not racist however. words get their meaning by their context. asking if you can bum a fag gets very different responses in the uk and outside

    in this case master 2a/d or 5 and I couldnt find any non people slavery related definition so maybe that should get changed after all

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    • Chunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you have ever said “Master Slave” architecture you are a racist and every single Black person in earshot had a panic attack. At least, that’s what we’re led to believe.

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• Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Waiting for the day they change standard chess colors to blue and yellow because black and white are racist terms.

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