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redballooon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They don’t really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc. Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.

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  • wick@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I had a bunch of hexbear and ml’s tell me russian war crimes in Berlin were “Nazi myths”. Apparently the Nazis had more influence over the world of historical academia after they lost than Russia.

    Also other allied war crimes did happen and weren’t Nazi myths.

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• WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren’t left-leaning.

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  • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not truly sctosmen either.

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    • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What part of “authoritarian state capitalism” is left wing to you?

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      • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t know. I’m not a fucking tankie. They are masters at cognitive dissonance.

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  • redballooon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Idk, just last week I overheard a report of an old communist whose life wishes were to visit Vietnam, Kuba and Russia.

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    • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      and…?

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  • WhiteHawk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They are, they’re just ignorant

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• mnoram@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think I’m confused. I haven’t seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It’s right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I’ve never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I’ve seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Left and right is not a defined group, it’s a name and any group can pretend/think they belong to it.

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  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The most support for China is basic materialist analysis: they’ve heavily invested in housing, high speed rail, electric car infrastructure, and green energy. Coincidentally: all rather related.

    But that is generally the support associated with China: a materialist analysis, usually, if not always, regarding infrastructure.

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• ninchuka@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Depends which hard left, I know hard/far left people who hate them

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