How is making it illegal to steal a person’s face and make them say things they never agreed to going to make China an AI super power?
Comment on TikTok ran a deepfake ad of an AI MrBeast hawking iPhones for $2 — and it's the 'tip of the iceberg'
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year agoyet there was no legislation put in place to target this behavior
Why is the solution to every problem outlawing something?
“We need to do something about prostitution. Let’s outlaw it!”
“We need to do something about alcohol. Let’s outlaw it!”
“We need to do something about drugs. Let’s outlaw them!”
“We need to do something about gambling. Let’s outlaw it!”
All of it… a bunch of miserable failures, which have put good people in prison and turned our whole country into a goddamn police state. You can’t outlaw technology without international treaties to make sure every other country follows suit. That barely works with nuclear weapons, and only because two cities exploded by the bombs and at least a couple decades of being afraid of a nuclear apocalypse.
What the hell do you think is going to happen if we make moves on AI? China takes the lead, does what it wants, and suddenly, it’s the far superior superpower. The end.
Hell, how do we know this isn’t China propaganda running on China’s propaganda platform?
AdmiralShat@programming.dev 1 year ago
urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
It’s already illegal to impersonate someone to steal money. It’s called fraud.
AI is going to cause huge problems (I am really worried about how things are going to shake out) but I’m also not convinced writing special laws about it is going to change anything. We do need to make sure our current laws don’t have loopholes that AI can somehow exploit.
AdmiralShat@programming.dev 1 year ago
It’s fraud to use it for financial gain, however it’s not illegal to directly copy someone’s likeness for non business uses.
You can legally make videos of people saying or doing things that hadn’t, and as this technology gets more advanced we will see more of its effects. Politics will be very tricky when you can upload a video of Presidents or candidates saying literally anything.
Not only that, but make someone commit a crime on camera? Even if you aren’t trying to get them prosecuted, it could lead to severe issues.
tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 year ago
in most countries you cannot. Making a fake of someone saying something they didn’t is slander at the minimum.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can argue its slander and libel, but where does that fall into AI? What’s the line? What if I make a joke song with someone’s voice? What if I make a joke video that has them doing horrible things? What’s the line?
Trashing someone’s reputation I would imagine, especially if they’re a public figure that relies on their reputation monetarily.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
It’s fraud to use it for financial gain, however it’s not illegal to directly copy someone’s likeness for non business uses.
So, never mind the fact that almost any use case is going to be for political or financial gain. Let’s just take the Mr Beast example here.
It’s an ad. It’s being used for financial gain, because it’s an ad. Either somebody is actually selling $2 iPhones (doubtful), or it’s a scam. Scams are also illegal, under various kinds of laws. Unfortunately, scams are usually committed in other countries.
This is an ad on a Chinese social media platform. Who’s going to enforce getting rid of this shit on a Chinese social media platform? Yeah, I know you’re going to point out that TikTok US is technically a US company, but we all know who really owns ByteDance and TikTok.
A federal investigation on this matter is going to point to TikTok US and then lead nowhere because the scam was created in China.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
How is making it illegal to steal a person’s face and make them say things they never agreed to going to make China an AI super power?
One, fraud is already illegal, and there’s plenty of other laws to use in this situation. And none of those laws apply to other countries.
Two, as soon as you ask Congress to enact some law to defend against the big bad AI monster under your bed, it’s going to go one of two ways:
- They push some law that’s so toothless that it doesn’t really do anything except limit the consumer and put even more power into the corporations.
- They push a law so restrictive that other countries take advantage of the situation and develop better AI than we have. And yes, a technology this important has the ability to give one country a huge advantage.
It’s an arms race right now. Either we adapt to these situations with enforcement, education, and containment, or other countries will control our behaviors through manipulation and propaganda. More laws and legislation is not going to magically fix the problem.
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Copyright infringement was also already illegal, but mass copyright infringement on major platforms didn’t really get handled until the DMCA came out with specific responsibilities for how platforms had to handle copyright infringement.
Like, if you let 15 seconds of the wrong pop-song appear in a YouTube vid they will come after you because YouTube has to avoid being liable for that infringement, but the phone companies can let scammers run rampant without consequence.
halvo317@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
At no point did you come anywhere close to anything that can be considered a rational thought
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Or you could propose alternative solutions instead of building a weird straw man with sex workers and gin.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Are you seriously comparing alcohol. To people stealing someone’s likeness to commit fraud?
Fal@yiffit.net 1 year ago
That’s already illegal though
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
If you can prove it. Which takes time and money. It would be far better to update laws to keep up with our tines and put a stop to it before it begins.
What’s being done to Mr Beast, and also Tom Hanks. Is nothing short of Identify theft.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why is legislation= outlawing to you?
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fear mongering.