They need Lebensraum.
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FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Israel is literally waging a war to expand borders, so yeah, maybe they want to be left alone in the sense that they won’t accept any state other than Israel existing in the end.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Why do they all sound like they’re from brooklyn?
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Because you are only watching one sided propaganda.
The majority of Jews in Israel are Mizrahi, meaning from the Middle East and Mediterranean region.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 3 weeks ago
Or, they want to be left alone to do whatever they want for the glory of the motherland.
prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
It’s … wild because this is part of the roots of the Jewish people being chased from their lands.
In a world where folks accepted other peoples gods but revered their own … the monotheistic Abrahamic religions fucked all that up.
Greddan@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
A bunch of Europeans calling themselves Israelites has about as much weight as a bunch of Europeans calling themselves Aryans.
daannii@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Have you ever heard of this social experiment that was done a long time ago.
A teacher in 1968, following days after MLK was murdered, decided to teach kids about racism. It ended up becoming a famous experiment about how people who are discriminated against will often do the same back to others. And that we are all equally capable of being taught to discriminate even when we ourselves have faced discrimination and know what it’s like.
Here is the premise. (All kids were white, I believe)
The teacher told the students that Brown color students were smarter than blue eye eye students because the pigment in brown eyes was related to intelligence.
Here is the rest copied from Wikipedia
“Initially, there was resistance among the students in the minority group to the idea that blue-eyed children were better than brown-eyed children. To counter this, Elliott led the children to believe the false premise that melanin was linked to their higher intelligence and learning ability. Shortly thereafter, the initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed “superior” became arrogant, bossy, and otherwise unpleasant to their “inferior” classmates. Their grades on simple tests improved, and they completed mathematical and reading tasks that had seemed outside their ability before. The “inferior” classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children who scored more poorly on tests, and even during recess isolated themselves, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children’s academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.[10]
The next Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed children in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense. To reflect on the experience, she asked the children to write down what they had learned.[6]”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott
Here is an in-depth article by PBS on it. www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/…/introduction-2/
Here is a documentary about it , also made by PBS. m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcCLm_LwpE
It’s a fascinating experiment into human behavior and self reflection.
WillFord27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I was surprised to learn Jane Elliott is still alive. MLK’s assassination really wasn’t as long ago as they want you to believe.
daannii@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Black slavery really wasn’t that long ago either.
1863
163 years.
That’s roughly only 2 lifetimes ago.
Two.
But yeah segregation was 50 years. People are alive today that weren’t allowed to use the same toilets as whites or share drinking fountains. Restaurants wouldn’t serve them.
Sundown towns. Lynchings.
The latter is still occurring.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The problem with believing in gods is that you think you are right. That makes other people wrong. And so it begins…
ptu@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
That is one way to see it, but it’s also possible to have a more pluralistic view. Like in India which has a long tradition of many religions co-existing with respect.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 3 weeks ago
Boy, you should really look into how they’re handing their Muslim population. Though, yes, much like the Israel situation, the Brits really fucked that region up.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can respect someone and still think they’re wrong. Just like I respect you right now.
But if you truly believe in your religion, then you must believe that other religions aren’t right.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why would you believe anything if you were going to believe you were wrong?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And that’s why you shouldn’t.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
That’s not true. I believe in gods and I’m n antirealist. I think everything is subjective and we should kill the idea of one objective reality.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you can believe that, then you can believe anything, and you’re one good conversation away from being manipulated and used.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You say that but there’s no real evidence of a mass migration, suggesting the chase never happened. But, considering the Israelites’ goal back then was to annihilate the natives of (what was until 1948) Palestine and take their land because someone said Yahweh said they should… If they were banished they probably had it coming. Just like modern day Israelites have it coming.
prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
K.
Id like anyone who read my comment to not see this comment and think it follows what I’m saying or expands on it.
This dude is standing alone
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
So you dont think israel is wrong for stealing land and killing innocence woman and children?
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I stand proud, hating evil and cruelty. It has no place in the world I envision.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They can live there, just don’t genocide everyone else, is that so hard?
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Well I’d agree but I have standards… If you catch your neighbour burning your shed down for the eighth time, eventually you’re going to decide they can’t be trusted in your garden. The Zionists have fucked with Palestinians for decades recently, and centuries past, and seem incapable of refraining from murder.