I won’t use < insert FOSS Project > because of political vibes.
I see this shit almost everyday. Absolute npc behaviour.
Ladybird is pretty much dead to me, firstly because the dev has some really bad right wing vibes (he said gender inclusive language is too political for his docs and retweeted a Nazi on Twitter). And secondly because the started using AI to move the code to Rust to make it more secure, which is insane if you know anything about AI or security.
My current hope is in servo, because they have much more capable maintainers and the project seems to make some good progress. Also they have daily builds on their website for every operating system, so you can already try it out easily (but don’t expect everything to work right now, they still need some time).
B3rn4yy@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 days ago
NPC behavior is not having any sense of morality and the backbone to take a stand, but I get it, it’s far more comfortable to just put your head in the sand and consume
B3rn4yy@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Consume what exactly in this context?
Also you self righteous people still didn’t tell me why you won’t use the browser expect for vibes so I don’t really feel bad for “consuming”
axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Also you self righteous people still didn’t tell me why you won’t use the browser expect for vibes so I don’t really feel bad for “consuming”
and like flies to shit the conservative comes out of the wood works right on queue to bitch about politics.
Zetta@mander.xyz 2 days ago
Yea I just don’t get it for open source software, like you aren’t supporting their agenda by using the free fucking software
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
why don’t you just use chromium? it is open source, you can fork it!
ATPA9@feddit.org 2 days ago
I tried out the servo alpha on android and it is surprisingly usable for something so early in development
InternetEnjoyer@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
This whole ”controversy” surrounding Ladybird is such a nothing burger, people are just looking for an excuse to be offended. Is everyone you disagree with either right wing and nazis?
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Seems like the goal of Servo is to be used for embedded applications rather than as a full fledged browser. Is the idea that someone else will build a full browser on top of servo?
Zetta@mander.xyz 2 days ago
Ladybird is gonna be awesome, you are overblowing things, it’s an open source project chill out. Also sevro is not currently really being designed as a desktop web browser. Its a web engine for light weight embedded applications. Ladybird is currently the only in development webbrowser that is primarily designed with desktop maim browser use.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I don’t think it’s overblowing things at all when I look at these tweets: nitter.net/awesomekling/…/1966456391146606806 nitter.net/awesomekling/…/1971287738268909576
That dev seems to be a real piece of shit.
InternetEnjoyer@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Looking at those tweets I would say it is way overblown. People act like it’s the end of the world if there is a slight disagreement.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
If you think rejecting hate speech is overblown, you might be part of the problem. It’s not a “slight disagreement” when people question the fundamental right to live of another group.
Zetta@mander.xyz 2 days ago
I’m glad Kirk got necked and it’s sad he supports him, but that doesn’t change the fact ladybird is an exciting open source project that I can’t wait to try out.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
see how much opinions can differ: I am not glad about anyone getting murdered (neither am I sad about this particular one), but I think that people propagating hate and intolerance should focus on therapy, not open source.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 days ago
I did not know about the AI stuff. However, I do think that the “inclusion” controversy is way overblown. Why in the world would you need to have “gender inclusive language” in the docs for a browser engine?
SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Or we could ask the question in the opposite direction - why would you use language which excluded anybody who doesn’t identify as male from the documentation for an open-source project, to the point where when someone offers to update the language for you your response is to rant about “personal politics” and write a contribution policy which forbids the use of gender-neutral language?
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Can you provide an example of this non-inclusive language? I honestly can’t even come up with an example for web browser documentation that would refer to any gender at all.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“In case of browser crash, the male, white, cis user should submit a bug report”
SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 days ago
As opposed to
github.com/…/beb448fc248f1cbd82a4c68ddf72687203d4…
That’s the example linked to from the thread which started the controversy off: github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814
|> This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I don’t know the actual thing that happened but I’m assuming “the user [something] <his/him/he> [something]”
A7thStone@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Whether or not the inclusion controversy is “overblown” (it’s not; single word change would have made more people feel welcome, but Kling decided to put his for down) Kling has down himself to be Nazi adjacent.
hyperborea.org/reviews/…/ladybird-inclusivity/
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Apparently Kling was against using “they” instead of “he”. While I do agree that it’s wrong and gender neutral terms should be used, I wouldn’t “cancel” the guy over it. Afaik they are using gender neutral terms now.
The other stuff about Kling mentioned at the bottom of your link is worrying though. It’s a shame a project as important and necessary as Ladybird was created by a person like him :(
Zetta@mander.xyz 2 days ago
Good thing it’s an open source project so it doesn’t really matter at all what you think of someone working on it imo