Comment on Firefox's beta feature "Smart Window" shared browsing and search history to AI models without prompting

• Steve@communick.news ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And it breaks sooo many sites.
  Waterfox, is Firefox that just works.

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  • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I tried Librewolf for a while and found it to be a bit too much for me when all I really want is Firefox without AI. The privacy options are probably great but not for me.

    Just installed waterfox. First impression is that I am super happy to be bock to the previous Firefox theme - it takes less space and looks nicer in my opinion. Seems promising. Thanks for the recommendation! :)

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The latest Firefox release added a button that does exactly what you want. Turns off AI everywhere.

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      • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I returned to FireFox after the latest release because of the kill switch. Still I’m uncomfortable with using software that’s full of stuff that I hate, even if it’s disabled. This is not really rational I guess, just me being weird.

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It might be easier to soften Librewolf than harden Firefox, but fair point.

    If you’re a relatively normal user and you still want to use LibreWolf, I would recommend:

    • disable fingerprinting
    • not clearing history on exit

    Most of this is easy to find, especially thanks to the LibreWolf menu

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    • eli@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah it’s all just in the GUI to enable and disable what you don’t want.

      I don’t get what people are complaining about with LibreWolf being “too hard”. Like it’s 1 minute clicking through menus and you’re done. 5 minutes if you need to read and search things up real quick.

      But LibreWolf, ublock installed by default, and then set up containers. Just pure bliss.

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      • XLE@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        For us, sure. For the average Joe who doesn’t know about the side effects of fingerprinting, not so much.

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      • deleted@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It broke youtube for me yesterday and mind you I’m a web developer and I didn’t know what broke it exactly to turn it on/off.

        It fixed it self today though.

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      • Nelots@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe, but if you want Librewolf but less extreme, that’s what Waterfox is for. May as well just install that and avoid the 5 minute search. And this is coming from a long time Librewolf user.

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    • fizzle@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just enable canvas on sites that need it.

      Thats the only part of RFP that I find problematic.

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  • chickenf622@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah Librewolf does go really fucking hard on security/privacy to the detriment of functionality, but the are upfront with that so you shouldn’t be going in completely blind. I think Water Fox is a nice happy medium for users that don’t want to fuck around with technical stuff.

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  • Nindelofocho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It only breaks sites because RFP is on by default and some greedy sites dont like RFP. You can just turn it off and use a good user agent mask (if you care about fingerprinting)

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      xkcd.com/2501/

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  • KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, it does? I’ve not had site issues with either.

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    • Nelots@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It can cause issues with default settings on the occasional site.

      Since I had it on hand, here’s a screenshot of what I encountered when playing Jackbox with friends. All images would look like this.

      MlYJ6D0Bnz8fAUv.png

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  • eleijeep@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And it breaks sooo many sites.

    No it doesn’t. I use Librewolf and this common refrain is FUD.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I used it for almost a year.
      It took me ~3 months to find and tweak settings until I stopped running into issues with sites at least once every couple weeks.

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  • VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been using Librewolf for about a month now, today I ran into the first problem, a website was blank but that fixed itself when I closed the tab and opened it again. I’ve been very happy with it so far. Sad to hear you ran into troubles.

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  unfortunately forks depend on FF, and chrome to survive.

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