Comment on 40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research

• Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It would have been really great if they linked a detailed breakdown of the information gathered in the article. Swear to god every article that says “we did a study” never show the fucking study. Like come on let me see the data.

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  • Ilandar@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Normally Conversation articles link to the study in question, but this one hasn’t been published (yet). Not sure why the editor(s) didn’t just wait for that first. I agree that it’s lacking detail/context and feels a bit incendiary without it.

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    • Cypher@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guarantee you this study gets absolutely shredded in review.

      If anyone can link it to me when it’s public I will post my own review of it. Wouldn’t be the first time I get garbage retracted.

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  • Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Like come on let me see the data.

    It’s probably paywalled eh.

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    • Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it is I wouldn’t be able to find out because it’s not linked to in the article .

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  • craiglambie42@fosstodon.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    @Fleur_ @Fishnoodle the study hasn't been published yet. The article said 'in our soon to be released study'

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• Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t follow

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  • CTDummy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Our research: In our recent national survey of Australian adults and adolescents, we examined general misogynistic attitudes and support for violent extremism.

    Not sure if this is what they’re referring but am also curious how this survey was conducted.

    For example the question “do you believe women lie about DV/SV”. As someone who had a parent lie about related matters, I could answer yes, but is that what the question is actually asking? It seems to be asking if women, in general, lie about them. Obviously, no they don’t, but you can see how a question especially when posed to teenagers may lead to responses easily sensationalised by a news outlet. The inverse of this questions seems to be “do you believe women never lie about DV/SV?”

    There’s a reason self reported surveys are a nightmares for academics to use for meaningful data. Worth pointing the rest of the article has a lot of valid and concerning material that isn’t somehow magically undone by the articles research methods.

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    • Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Regardless thanks for the solid explanation.

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  • Fishnoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What exactly were the questions that they were asking and how are they phrased? Were they asking if these boys believed some of the accusations were false, did they ask if they thought most of them were false? Did they ask if they thought that women in general would lie about an assault?

    There’s a ton of nuance in a study like this that they don’t even go into.

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