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I don’t think Biden or Kamala would have started a war with Iran. And, they would at least offer restraint while meeting prior commitments to Israel even as it pushed genocide in Gaza, instead of wholehearted enthusiastic wanton destruction. And they certainly wouldn’t release an AI video of Gaza turned into some kind of horrific twisted kafkaesque graveyard rivera of the Middle East.

Their ICE detention centers would have a standard of care, face scrutiny when they didn’t, and function more like a part of a real immigration control system instead of concentration camps for protesters and brown people. They wouldn’t arrest American citizens for simply protesting, and they certainly wouldn’t have presided over a DHS that executes citizens in the street.

They wouldn’t hawk cheap merch from the White House or tear down the east wing for a self-serving passion project that will never be built because it’s actually just to embezzle from the taxpayers.

And here is perhaps the most important thing: they would make sense when they spoke, and attempt to inspire the things that make Americans good, instead of raving like senile narcissistic lunatics taking out their man-child shortcomings on the world.

The list of things that a real Democratic administration would NOT do compared to this sham regime of an autocratic wannabe dictator is endless, and by the end of this four years you’ll be begging for a return to the status quo. These people are insane and they are running the most power government with the most powerful military on earth. I’m convinced that the “both sides” crowd are simply conservative operatives vying to push blue votes to a third party, or to discourage voting for Democrats at all. Even if they aren’t, it’s the same effect.

Nobody likes the two party system, but this harmful lie that both parties are the same has got to go. They are not the same. One is better, even if it has support Israel to keep the Jewish vote and win elections. Vote red, third party, or abstain at our shared peril.

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bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
This almost reads like a parody tbh. Like, you just want the fascists to be polite and lie to you about the evil shit they’re doing overseas? Come ON. You deserve better. Stop settling for these fucking monsters who support genocide and concentration camps!

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- wuffah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Call me when you have an electable leftist candidate. I would certainly vote for them. Until then, I’d like to get these abject MAGA lunatics out of office at the earliest possible convenience please.
  
  What the hell else are we supposed to do? Do you think America will suddenly elect a third party candidate or nominate a real leftist/socialist/anti-genocide candidate after DECADES of failing to do so? At least the requirement of a lie creates some semblance of accountability. The Republican Party now does it openly and gleefully as a matter of course, at an order of magnitude greater in intensity.
  
  I will take the giant douche over the shit sandwich any day man. We don’t have to eat the giant douche! Using the giant douche is manageable over time, but eat a shit sandwich is non-negotiable, I will not do it.
  
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  - bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    Call me when you have an electable leftist candidate. I would certainly vote for them.
    
    This is exactly the problem. Everyone would! But the Democrats are never going to let a true leftist candidate be the presidential nominee, we saw that in 2016 where they transmuted Bernie Sander’s victory into Hillary Clinton’s defeat.
    
    Stop fucking lying to yourself, stop settling for these douches when we can actually push for real change.
    
    What it takes to start this journey is a willingness to admit that change is possible instead of the endless defeatism.
    
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    Hacksaw@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I get what you’re saying, but we need both of you, and we need you to stop fighting.
    
    We only win enough power to deal with fascism (which will kill millions at this rate) and eventually climate change (which is going to kill billions of people) if we use EVERY strategy available to us. Progressive like electing the best democrats we can, socialist like labour action, and radical like actually fighting an unjust system.
    
    But most importantly we have to stop fighting eachother. People like you need to hold their noses and vote at every election they can for the best candidate they can. People like wuffah will need to tolerate well targeted revolutionary action without publicly criticizing the left.
    
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    Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Real quick…
    
    How many votes did Bernie get in the 2016 primary, and how many did Clinton get?
    
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paultimate14@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
DOGE would not have happened under Biden or Harris. Millions of people are dying because of cuts to US AID.

Venezuela would not have happened. Like, how crazy is it that you lost a handful of the most egregious things Trump has done recently and yet somehow invading another country and kidnapping their leader a couple months ago doesn’t make the cut? I don’t mean that as a criticism of you, just how much insane shit Trump has done.

Cuts to Education have been and will be devastating for years. Shutting down tons of science and information-gathering agencies. Economic data is going to be non-existent or useless for the foreseeable future. All the lovely anti-trust action Lina Khan was starting to do under Biden has been erased. All the work Jessica Rosenworcel was doing to restore Net Neutrality under Biden has been erased. The Republican party is about to pass a bill that will disenfranchise both trans people and women. The EPA has been gutted. Trump has given and cut off funds to states, both for regular projects and disaster relief funds, based on how they voted for him, while Biden (and no other president I am aware of) has done anything like that before.

So-called “communists” have a tendency to become EnLiGhTeNeD cEnTrIsTs.

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JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I live when Americans start explaining how the bad part of starting a war is that congress didn’t approve it. Cancer on the earth.

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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It never would have even gone to Congress. We had a nuclear deal with Iran already, and it was working. Remember?
  
  Take a guess what happened to it.
  
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mlg@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I don’t think the Biden or a Harris administration would have started a war with Iran while brazenly sidestepping congress.

No they’d probably unbrazenly sidestep congress after Israel manufacturers a reason for them to go to war with something like another 9/11.

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- Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  In case you forgot 9/11 happened during Bush’s (a Republican) presidency, and his administration used it to get into Afghanistan and Iran, even though most of the hijackers were Saudi, and the whole operation was Saudi funded.
  
  If you want, you can try to guess another manufacturered crisis that dragged a Democratic administration into a war?
  
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