Comment on Federated End-to-End Encrypted Messaging is Coming Soon

• Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ActivityPub isn’t the only way to federate.
  It’s federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software.

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What??? I thought being part of Federation meant being part of the WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION!

    OOOOH YEAH, SEE I’M ALWAYS THINKIN THINKIN THINKIN, YEAH. AND WHEN IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE DO THING IN THE RING! DIG IT! THE TOWER OF POWER TOO SWEET TO BE SOUR, FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY! OOOOOOH YEEEAAAHHHH!!!

    Pomp and circumstance plays over the house speakers

    ELIZABETH!!!

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  • confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No that’s decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      share the info natively outside the platform.

      I’m not even sure that makes sense.
      Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol?

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    • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a distinction that only matters to nerds.

      Luckily most of us on here are nerds so it’s all good.

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How so? It’s certainly very similar.

  The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients.

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  • confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But all those clients are matrix, not say some discord, some fluxer, some stoat, etc.

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    • WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All activitypub platforms are activity pub. Also, matrix is a protocol, not a client. There’s tons of clients for matrix (element/element x being the main one).

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes?

      “Matrix” is the protocol.

      The equivalent is ActivityPub, not discord, fluxer or stoat.

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    • Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Fediverse isn’t federated.

      All those clients are ActivityPub, not say some Synapse, some Continuwuity, some Rocket Chat, etc.

      How is that different?

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• RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What do you mean?

  And what benefit justifies yet another standard?

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  • VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible.

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    • littleomid@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix.

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      • VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix?

        Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what’s the problem here?

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  • confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix

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    • WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Activitypub doesn’t connect natively to my toaster.

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    • littleomid@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively?

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