Comment on Piracy communities remain blocked on lemmy.world despite "Unremoval of Piracy Communities" announcement

• alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You say that as if it’s a gotcha, not a boon

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  • Willoughby@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If censorship is what’s being criticized, it’s no different.

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    • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We vote on who we want to defederate from. Our vote threads even have cool pirate themed images and stuff.

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      • Willoughby@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They even make less content an event so you can celebrate your own loss?

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If censorship is what’s being criticized, it’s no different.

      Paradox of tolerance

      I hate when censorship comes for people I do like.

      I love when censorship comes for people I don’t like.

      it’s just become such a nanny instance that jumps on everyone’s shit.

      Admins are fighting a flood of instances and users more interested in getting attention than participating in the community. Consequently, you’ll have power users ballooning the front page with click-bait. You’ll have instances choke full of reactionary content specifically intended to bait a flame war. You’ll have spammers plugging their own brands or working on behalf of some third party. And you’ll have the odd bot-farm or other automated account that’s just probing the Fediverse for gaps.

      “Ah, but the individual users can always block what they choose”

      Sure. Technically. But nobody wants to wake up every morning to a front page that’s full of shit. The spammers can bloat your inbox faster than the individual can flush it out. So Admins who step in and do a little public house cleaning - the Nanny work you hate - makes the website cleaner and friendlier for lay users that pop in now and then.

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      • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think the censorship arguments can definitely use some maturing… for example, what would you think of the cultural censorship that occurs with Nazi ideology? Probably want to keep that one, huh?

        We don’t necessarily want to do away with censorship, I think. But, I think in the most mature world, it would be healthy to.

        Why can’t the boy ask his priest about his most serious doubts regarding god, and receive an honest answer back? Why does the priest say the solution is faith, an inward focused quality to be solved at the individual-level?

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      • pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        feddit wasn’t a spam instance?

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      • pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But nobody wants to wake up every morning to a front page that’s full of shit

        Don’t you know admins can have a default blocklist for all users (if a user want they can change that list)

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    • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Go make your own “censor free” instance and stop whining, jfk

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      • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’ll probably whine when it gets defederated due to hosting libertarian freeze peach trolls. Which often happens with no-defed instances.

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    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, because piefed.world doesn’t defed or censor anyone. Lol

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  • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ultimately when you criticize censorship you ultimately get a bunch of Freeze peach libertarians who want to do whatever they want and see moderation as something to fear. That’s why it’s important to be precise and not speak in broad or abstract terms when criticizing censorship.

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• Astertheprince@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s a pro in my book considering I had harassment directed my way by a feddit admin.

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