What about 1st degree burns? Would these be ok?
Comment on iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F
Hector_McG@programming.dev 9 months ago
Some context:
www.antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/inf…
At 116F you would require firm, continuous contact for more than 20 minutes to produce a 2nd degree burn, and over 45 minutes to produce a 3rd degree burn.
sverit@feddit.de 9 months ago
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
So one semi long YouTube video is all it would take to get a burn? And you’d not even need a full length movie to need a trip to the hospital?
I get that these aren’t “instant” burns, but this is still a device people regularly hold for hours a day. And if you don’t realize it’s heating up, you’re likely to notice only when you’re in pain.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Yea I think that when something is hot enough to cause burns, even when it takes minutes, I think it’s uncomfortable enough for people to let go way WAY before anything bad happens. If you don’t then you probably need medication for whatever condition ails you
AdamantRatPuncher@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Or a game with some relatively large 3d model and textures. I guess that, if the average play time is about 45 minutes, then…not good at all. But who’d hold a triple digit temperature thing in his hands?
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
If the temp increase is slow, people don’t realize it’s hot unless they happen to out it down.
When my son was younger, he burnt his legs by using a laptop on his lap. It got hot, he didn’t realize.
AdamantRatPuncher@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Didn’t think about that, it’s like the frog in a pan example than…true
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
He skipped 1st degree burns. Those would probably take 10 minutes or less.
ram@bookwormstory.social 9 months ago
Realistically speaking, since this is in fast charging only, and most people don’t let their phone battery drain to 0, I think it’s unlikely that 3rd degree burns will be an issue within reason. The iPhone 15’s reported to take about 30 minutes to charge from 0 to 50%, so if I assume the other 50% also takes 30 minutes, then really, someone won’t be hitting 45 minutes unless they’re charging from below 25% to full.^[I know charging isn’t actually linear progression, but I don’t really wanna do the math.]
That said, 3rd degree burns may be an issue once you slip a case on it that insulates the phone, making it yet hotter, and 2nd degree burns will be more of an issue too. I’d be interested in seeing what the peak temp is during fast charging with a case on, especially one of the thicker cases. If it internally gets to more than 140 degrees Fahrenheit, there’s absolutely risk that it could explode, and even if it’s not doing it externally, internally it may be nearing those temps.
Maalus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Or maybe let’s not trivialize a defect that can cause 2nd degree burns making them look like nothing?
ram@bookwormstory.social 9 months ago
Chill Maalus, I’m pretty clearly addressing 3rd degree burns, and only even mentioning 2nd degree burns in circumstances that are likely to increase their risk.
What part of this set you off, genuinely? Was it the reference of it as a risk? Was it that I actually looked at the facts? No part of me thinks this is good. This is very obviously and inarguably unacceptable, and no part of my post states otherwise.
Hoomod@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Iphones have fast charging now?
ram@bookwormstory.social 9 months ago
Apparently, I’d drop dead before I buy one myself but a friend told me today that with fast charging the 15 charges to 100% in 55 minutes.
LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Complete opposite. I’ve never seen any other group of people let their phone drop so low. It’s like they do it on purpose. I blame the lack of battery % so they don’t get the anxiety effects.