It could also have something to do with the fact that, for a 20 year old person, none of the games in the series that have come out during their lifetime have been the fan favorites. Even amongst die-hard Final Fantasy fans, you don’t get people losing their minds over FF XIII the way they do for VI, VII, IX, or X. For most of the recent games, the most effusive praise I’ll hear for them is that they aren’t that bad once you get used to the systems and figure out how the game works.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Also, and I’m just throwing this out there, maybe the circlejerk of nostalgia bait for Gen X/Millennials means fuck-all to younger people in general because it’s the nostalgia of their parents, not their own thing?
Like, aren’t we seeing this in so many different properties? As time marches on, interest wanes? Nobody cares about Marvel movies anymore. Nobody cares about Star Wars anymore. The most hardcore fanatics tend to be older and had the originals, which were literally original content, as things they grew up with. Part of the mystery and excitement of them was how much was left unexplained. Seriously, the Clone Wars was this mysterious fucking thing when it was just an offhand comment by Luke Skywalker in Star Wars: A New Hope. Now we have entire TV series dedicated to the background of the Clone Wars. Mystery gone. The first season of The Mandalorian brought back a sense of mystery to the series and then promptly dropped it to mix it in with every other piece of Star Wars memorabilia.
Young people want their own stuff that they’re growing up with, they don’t want rehashes of the shit their parents obsessed over.
Look at the continued interest in Adventure Time spinoffs, for example. Adventure Time first came out when I was just shy of 29. It would be fodder for the children of people just slightly older than me. It was also enjoyable for older folks who enjoyed silly fantasy, which gave it wider appeal. It persists more because it was an actual original thing that some people grew up with.
We live in an era where copyright that lasts 100 years after authorial death has broken corporations brains and they are scared to death of anything original in case it might not be a clear moneymaker. Letting interest in a new property grow over time is almost unheard of in the Netflix era of two seasons and then fuck you, it’s over. So even when new properties are explored, most aren’t given enough time to mature into something that becomes truly nostagliac for a younger generation.
If corporations want people to be as invested in long-lived series, they have to allow the option for new, interesting series to take the stage. Is it really a shocker that people are over games that started in the NES era? That young people want stories and ideas that reflect the world they live in, not the one their parents grew up in?
I’m in my forties, and I constantly talk about how the world our parents brought us up to live in was dead before we were born. It’s the same but at an accelerated pace for kids these days. The world we know and are trying to prepare them for no longer exists. Our stories and nostalgia become meaningless for our kids because it doesn’t speak to their experiences.
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atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
You aren’t wrong but I also think people tend to forget just how much of what we grew up on were remakes and rehashes of stuff even from the radio era. Especially the cartoons that we watched as kids, so much of that was just recycled jokes and such with some jokes for the adults of the day thrown in too. Even Star Wars was an homage to the serials of the 30s-50s like Flash Gordon, which itself got an 80s remake (with an excellent soundtrack by Queen). The remakes aren’t new they are just more obvious.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
Yeah, I was thinking that recently when I realized I’ve known
the crazy plot twist in Star Wars
(Luke’s daddy issues)
for as long as I can remember.
I’ve also known
so many iconic characters and scenes
(Yoda, R2D2, Chewbacca, the metalkini, C3PO, when they boop the Death Star etc.)
before I was even old enough to watch the movies, too.
I’m sure they’re cool movies, with lots of cultural relevance, but they’ve been spoiled in every possible way for me, specifically because the older generation loves them so much that they can’t shut up about them.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m almost 50 but have so little interest about Nintendo.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Far easier to rehash a known moneymaker than to take a risk come up with something original. Some people might point at the multiple tens of thousands of games on Steam as evidence there are people making new games that are original, but if you compare the relaitive few that take off vs the popular franchises’ success it’s pretty obvious that rehashing works. Plenty of new games languish and never really get anywhere.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
On the nostalgia front I just want to say I’ve never been into metroidvanias and never played any kind of metroid game before, I tried metroid zero mission an hour ago and I’m already hooked. These games are just genuinely good. Not dunking on newer games I play those a lot too, just saying not everything new is better and I’d love to see some kind of happy middle ground.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My parents once taught me how to use a payphone when I was a kid. I’m 40.
Your post is exactly correct.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Wtf is a payphone
deeferg@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Oh my god this is a real question and I’m getting old.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
Haha don’t worry happens to all of us. I feel old too sometimes
jaycifer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There were many decades between the proliferation of home phones and cell phones. During that time many people may be away from home and need to contact someone over the phone. Payphones were installed in public places that anyone could use to meet that need. They took change in exchange for minutes using the phone.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 day ago
So just telephone cells? Okay
TheBat@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Landlines with coin slots. Insert coin, call someone. Insert more coins to keep talking.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Young people want their own stuff that they’re growing up with, they don’t want rehashes of the shit their parents obsessed over.
If only children had the perspective to know alternative choices exist and they should hold out for something better. This assumes young people can control the media they are fed. It’s more likely that the generation making content for them confuses nostalgia for childhood and the audience doesn’t like the iterative/derivative product.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Pokemon games come out often.
I think that’s the big difference. In a single console generation like the PS3 you had Naughty Dog put out Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, and Last of Us 1.
For the PS4 they put out Last of Us 2, Uncharted 4, and Uncharted Lost Legacy.
And for PS5 nothing.
I think that’s the difference. Games aren’t released as by individual studios as often anymore. The ones that stay part of the public eye frequently release games like Call of Duty or have a live service model like GTA V that has people keep playing like it is Fortnite.