Honestly the name choice adds difficulty in getting friends to take it seriously. Why did they pick “stoat”
Comment on Question: Is there a Self Hosted Discord like app?
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Check out stoat.chat, it’s the closest self hostable group communications platform that looks like Discord.
hesh@quokk.au 1 month ago
Tetsuo@jlai.lu 1 month ago
Nowadays everyone accepted the name “Discord” but I think it’s a pretty poor choice of branding too.
A communication app called Discord is pretty weird too.
A stoat is a pretty cool animal.
I think without prior knowledge of any voice chat Discord would probably rate worse in perception than Stoat.
early_riser@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nowadays everyone accepted the name “Discord” but I think it’s a pretty poor choice of branding too.
A terrible name for an app meant to facilitate communication. Always baffled me. But the name is so widely recognized that nobody thinks twice about it.
I always thought Noosphere would make a cool name for a Discord replacement, especially if it incorporates a way to permanently catalog the knowledge accrued by the community, say as a built-in wiki. That might actually make it viable as a support platform.
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
No clue! It was revolt before. I think they had trademark issues with that name. What’s wrong with stoat?
ttyybb@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was wondering why I want getting any updates, checked thegithub a few months ago and found out they rebranded. Haven’t had a chance to try the latest version out yet
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Personally, I associate stoats with Dwarf Fortress. And much butchering thereof.
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
you mean unlike the tools discord has replaced, such as “mumble”, “ventrilo”, “roger wilco” and “trillian”?
autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Mumble is a very like talking. What the fuck ks stoat got to do with anything?
borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Xfire
hesh@quokk.au 1 month ago
Unironically yes
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
soundn like a problem with your friends then. who doesn’t love a stoat?
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Discord never replaced mumble. The two are in different circles.
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
for some, yeah. depends on your use case.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
This whole “FOSS names are bad” sounds like a Mccarthyism sysop by this point. Like, really, who is pushing that crap?
hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 month ago
seems like they had a decent name ‘revolt’ but got some cease and desist and didn’t resist and decided to switch.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The name doesnt matter
IRC is a stupid name too, unless you know what the letters stand for
Msn messenger was stupid
Icq was stupid
Wtf even is “skype”?
It just has to be unique
And a Stout is kinda cute
hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
What do you meeaaan? Stoats are fucking adorable!
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Stoats are awesome.
Mihies@programming.dev 1 month ago
Is there a significant benefit over matrix?
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
From what I can tell, the only benefit is that the platform is close to the Discord experience. So people migrating to Stoat would feel right at home.
But there’s no federation, no e2ee, apparently it’s difficult to get voice setup if you self host…
Matrix has it’s issues too. Goup chat e2ee is not good. No one uses it. But at least they’ve got federation.
continuwuity.org seems like a decent server to run if you want to run a matrix server.
eleijeep@piefed.social 1 month ago
Where is the documentation for self-hosting it?
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Check their GitHub. Although it looks like GitHub is having issues right now.
hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 month ago
has anyone tried their iOS client? from their description it seems like it’s less mature than the android version, kinda concerning as my friend group has some iphone users.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Just a fair warning in reply to this that the self-hosted version of Stoat doesn’t currently have voice chat. It’s an open issue that’s currently paused until they can finish their rework.
If you have the skill for it, it seems like you can patch work the existing voice chat back in, but it’s not part of their initial setup and there’s no instructions on how to do so properly
verdigris@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Well that seems like a fairly big deal.
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Link to their voice chat implementatoon.
Looks like you can enable it on self hosted version. Probably worth someone trying it out personally. Before giving up on stoat.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
sadly, it’s a little more complex than just enabling it. The supported self host deployment uses docker, and the docker containers that are available don’t contain the interfaces for voice or video calling as they are not up to date.
If I understand it right, to enable it would mean you need to either pull the source yourself and run it off of docker, or make a custom docker image using a version of stoat web that contains the ability to do voice calls.
reading the draft of the linked issue, it looks like they the author isn’t doing voice call for the reason that they don’t know the proper way to integrate it into the docker image.
So to answer it: yes you can use voice servers on the current self hosted model, but you can’t use pre-existing docker images, and it will require you to manually add the new web UI in and patch where needed.
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Turns out they also don’t support federation or e2ee. If those are things you care about.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Is there a docker-free build you can either install and mod to re-enable voice, or use to mod the docker blobs in accordance ?
hushable@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve been using it since it was called Revolt and quite like it, albeit I’ve never used the voice feature. My group doesn’t really have the need for it, but I can see it being a deal breaker for the self-hosted version.