Comment on It Turns Out That When Waymos Are Stumped, They Get Intervention From Workers in the Philippines
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 weeks agoBroadly speaking, an AI driver getting stumped means it’s stuck in the middle of the road - while a human driver getting stumped means plowing into a semi truck.
I’d rather be inconvenienced than killed. And from what I’ve seen, even our current AI drivers are already statistically safer than the average human driver - and they’re only going to keep getting better.
They’ll never be flawless though. Nothing is.
current AI drivers are already statistically safer than
As long as they use level 3 autonomous cars and then cheat with remote operators instead of using real level 5 cars, such statistics remain quite meaningless.
However, they tell about the people who use them as arguments.
As the OP stated, the low velocity cases are not causing deadly accidents. And you can’t drive by wire at high speed (too much latency). So I doubt it’s affecting the stats in any meaningful way.
Honestly I much prefer they have a human as a backup than not.
As the OP stated, the low velocity cases are not causing deadly accidents.
Make humans drive as slow as these cars and deaths will drop too.
The cars aren’t driving that slow the vast majority of the time…
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Ai drivers have run over and crushed people slowly before too though because they didn’t see the person as an “obstacle” to be avoided, or because they were on the ground, it didn’t see them
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
And they always will. You need to look at the big picture here, not individual cases. If we replaced every single car on US roads with one driven by AI - proven to be 10 times better a driver than a human - that would still mean 4,000 people getting killed by them each year. That, however, doesn’t mean we should go back to human drivers and 40,000 people killed annually.
ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
By that logic…
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We should really be investing in trains and busses, not cars of any type.
walden@wetshav.ing 2 weeks ago
I think your logic is flawed. The discussion is about a specific form of transportation. By your own logic, you should be suggesting that people fly everywhere.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
I fully agree with you, but there is the issue of robotaxis crashing 3x as often as human drivers - and thats with a human supervisor on board. So if we switched completely to AI cars with the current level of integration, thats 120000 people killed.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Tesla made the idiotic decision to rely entirely on cameras, waymo used lidar and other sensors to augment vision.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s Tesla, not Waymo. Tesla’s hardware is shit and does not even include lidar. You can’t judge the entire industry by the worst example.
zbyte64@awful.systems 2 weeks ago
Big picture is AI not being able to operate under unusual conditions means that the “10 times better” has a big fucking caveat where we can’t say the stat will hold true if we replace all drivers.