Comment on It Turns Out That When Waymos Are Stumped, They Get Intervention From Workers in the Philippines

• Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Broadly speaking, an AI driver getting stumped means it’s stuck in the middle of the road - while a human driver getting stumped means plowing into a semi truck.

  I’d rather be inconvenienced than killed. And from what I’ve seen, even our current AI drivers are already statistically safer than the average human driver - and they’re only going to keep getting better.

  They’ll never be flawless though. Nothing is.

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  • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ai drivers have run over and crushed people slowly before too though because they didn’t see the person as an “obstacle” to be avoided, or because they were on the ground, it didn’t see them

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    • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And they always will. You need to look at the big picture here, not individual cases. If we replaced every single car on US roads with one driven by AI - proven to be 10 times better a driver than a human - that would still mean 4,000 people getting killed by them each year. That, however, doesn’t mean we should go back to human drivers and 40,000 people killed annually.

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      • ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You need to look at the big picture here, not individual cases.

        By that logic…

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        We should really be investing in trains and busses, not cars of any type.

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      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I fully agree with you, but there is the issue of robotaxis crashing 3x as often as human drivers - and thats with a human supervisor on board. So if we switched completely to AI cars with the current level of integration, thats 120000 people killed.

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      • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Big picture is AI not being able to operate under unusual conditions means that the “10 times better” has a big fucking caveat where we can’t say the stat will hold true if we replace all drivers.

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  • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    current AI drivers are already statistically safer than

    As long as they use level 3 autonomous cars and then cheat with remote operators instead of using real level 5 cars, such statistics remain quite meaningless.

    However, they tell about the people who use them as arguments.

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    • errer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As the OP stated, the low velocity cases are not causing deadly accidents. And you can’t drive by wire at high speed (too much latency). So I doubt it’s affecting the stats in any meaningful way.

      Honestly I much prefer they have a human as a backup than not.

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As the OP stated, the low velocity cases are not causing deadly accidents.

        Make humans drive as slow as these cars and deaths will drop too.

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