Comment on No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

• rimu@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A never-ending maze would mean the scrapers just hammer our servers forever. Better to lead them into a honeypot and automatically ban their IP. Like PieFed does.

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  • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What about a maze that adds a few hundred ms to the response time with each request, so the load gets less the longer it’s trapped?

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    • rimu@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I haven’t tried to make something like that. I think it’d be hard to do that without also exhausting our resources too.

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      • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ah, that makes sense

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A never-ending maze would mean the scrapers just hammer our servers forever.

    Is that how tarpitting works? I didn’t know.

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    • rimu@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are a lot of strategies. afaik a tar pit tries to waste the attacker’s resources by delaying our responses to their traffic? A honey pot tries to funnel bot traffic towards a place which only bots would go to. Once they go there you know they’re a bot and they can be banned.

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  • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So just find scrapers IRL and burn down their houses, easy

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sadly that only works for scrapers, content engaging bots are immune to it.

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• 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s the job of the web server, not of the application that runs on it.

  There is already software you can get that feeds a never-ending maze of text to AI scrapers, some of which is AI generated and/or designed to poison LLM training. The problem is that these still use up a ton of bandwidth.

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• FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How would that layer distinguish AI from non-AI?

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