How would that layer distinguish AI from non-AI?
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TheBat@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoThat’s discord model.
Fediverse needs to have a layer which traps AI in a never-ending maze.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
4am@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s the job of the web server, not of the application that runs on it.
There is already software you can get that feeds a never-ending maze of text to AI scrapers, some of which is AI generated and/or designed to poison LLM training. The problem is that these still use up a ton of bandwidth.
mapto@feddit.bg 2 weeks ago
Fortunately AI is taking care of that on its own doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-07566-y
rimu@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
A never-ending maze would mean the scrapers just hammer our servers forever. Better to lead them into a honeypot and automatically ban their IP. Like PieFed does.
davidgro@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about a maze that adds a few hundred ms to the response time with each request, so the load gets less the longer it’s trapped?
rimu@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I haven’t tried to make something like that. I think it’d be hard to do that without also exhausting our resources too.
davidgro@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ah, that makes sense
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is that how tarpitting works? I didn’t know.
rimu@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
There are a lot of strategies. afaik a tar pit tries to waste the attacker’s resources by delaying our responses to their traffic? A honey pot tries to funnel bot traffic towards a place which only bots would go to. Once they go there you know they’re a bot and they can be banned.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Sadly that only works for scrapers, content engaging bots are immune to it.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
So just find scrapers IRL and burn down their houses, easy