Comment on Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney supports the $900 million lawsuit against Valve, arguing Steam is "the only major store still holding onto payment ties and 30% junk fee"

Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Tuscy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He’s just salty because the only games people “purchase” are the weekly free ones.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t even bother with those anymore. I never play the free ones I have, because I’d have to use Epic’s software.

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      • Playnite, if you’re on Windows (though Linux might be over the horizon).
      • Heroic Games Launcher if you’re on any platform.

      Playnite is the better choice if you’re on Windows, but either way, don’t let Tim’s dumb store stop you from ruining his day by generating a bunch of metrics that show you’re only playing freebies!

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    • orclev@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Keep collecting them. Each one you get costs Epic money and helps counter some of that Fortnite cash that lets Epic keep paying for exclusive contracts. Keep bleeding them and eventually they won’t be able to keep buying exclusive releases.

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      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Epic pays a flat rate to offer games for free, they don’t pay per download.

        Downloading them just helps Epic inflate their “active users” number when talking to investors.

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    • hornedfiend@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And here I thought I was special, seeing as other people actually bother enough to redeem those free games every week. I stopped doing it a long time ago and I’d rather pay for those games on steam/gog offers.

      I can’t be bothered with epic even for the free ones.

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      • Kuma@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I thought I would use the free games on epic as a demo for games I would like to buy at steam, turns out I just buy them at steam, I never play them on epic, I think I tried out two games in the beginning of the whole give away but that is it

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  • fishos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not even. I’ve bought games on Steam that I forgot I had in Epic because Epic is just that trash. Fuck Epic for trying to start their store by bribing developers for exclusivity on their platform. Bitch ass tactics to begin with and then crying and whining when their mob mentality strong arming didn’t work. Best believe if their shit had worked and they became popular those greedy assholes would be asking a higher percentage once everyone was locked in.

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    • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I love hating epic just as much as anybody else, but those exclusivity deals are not necessary just bribing the devs.

      The first Hades game would have been much smaller in scope and features, without epic funding them and helping them implementing something like EOS, the game would be definedly worse than it is.

      Remedy has also stated they could not make Alan Wake 2 without Epics funding. People often say the Epic exclusivity ruined its salea, but realistically without it there would not be a game.

      But even so, i think them suing Steam is a asshole move.

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      • fishos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ok, and what about games like Rocket League? It was already wildly popular. And didn’t we get interviews from a few exclusivity deal people saying that in the long run it wasn’t better than just launching on steam?

        But yes, I’m glad 2 games got made despite Epics shittiness. Maybe if they built features into their launcher they’d have more. How long did it take them to make a friends list? And last I heard, wasn’t viewing your own library still largely dependent on you knowing what games you already owned?

        Yeah, never gonna defend that shitstain of a company. They tried to bully their way in and failed and they deserve it 100000%

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  • systemglitch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I even stopped with those.

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    • Tuscy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yea. Like one or two good ones and sandwiched with a bunch of trash games no one wants.

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• Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He’s still right in this instance.

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  • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly. The number of people on Lenny who simp for Valve’s monopoly just because Epic (along with every game developer, big or small) stands to benefit is kind of shocking.

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    • orclev@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It doesn’t have anything to do with Epic, it’s because Steam provides a great service with a ton of features nobody else offers, and Valve has demonstrated time and time again that they make policies that benefit consumers.

      It would be great if Steam had some competition, but Epic ain’t it. What people want is another service of equal quality to Steam. Instead the best we have is GOG and that still falls well short of feature parity nevermind the anti-consumer cesspool of Epic.

      Suing Valve isn’t going to do anything to improve the situation. Realistically what could Valve do to be “less of a monopoly”? Lower the percentage they take of sales? Consumers wouldn’t see any benefit from that only developers. Ironically it would also increase Valves monopoly because if they took a smaller cut there would be even less reason for companies to sell on Epic as Epics lower cut is literally the only reason developers (outside of Epic literally paying some of them mounds of cash by way of exclusivity contracts) pick Epic over Steam.

      If Epic really wants to do something about Valves monopoly it’s simple, they just need to offer all the same features that Steam does. Things like family sharing, streaming support, a cross platform store and launcher, and an excellent review system so people can better understand the games they’re thinking about buying. Until that happens yes people will stick with Steam because it’s the objectively superior experience.

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      • lastweakness@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You know what annoys me about the people defending Epic’s lawsuit? The fact that there are actually legitimate issues with Valve and somehow they’re hyper-fixated on the non-issues. If they were instead talking about CS2 gambling, lootboxes, etc, I would be in support of it. But no, it’s about how they’re a “monopoly” because they’re one of only two stores that seem to care about their customers…

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      • richardwallass@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not a reason to charge 30% The $500 million Gabe Newell’s superyacht is here to remind you that prices are too high.

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    • Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It isn’t a monopoly because they don’t require you to use their store. Epic has a monopoly of epic exclusive games.

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      • ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Its an effective monopoly, that’s not really disputable. This lawsuit isn’t even about them having a monopoly, its about them allegedly abusing it.

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      • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And ecommerce sellers don’t “have to” sell on Amazon, so they don’t have any market power they can abuse to extract 40-50% fees from sellers, right?

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      • richardwallass@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How do you call a corporate driving 75% of the digital distribution market for PC games ?

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• Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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