We could accidentally release some polar bears in Antarctica, guess they could survive there.
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Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Well, it is about the only actual predator to the human species so we make a big deal out of it.
affenlehrer@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
The polar bears would be fine. The penguins would be in for quite a comeuppance
Nikelui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because the last time someone introduced an invasive species to a completely different environment worked extremely well.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Idk are there seals there? Because that’s the bear’s thing, ambushing seals coming up through their ice holes in the ince flows.
foo@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Regular visitors to Sharks would like a word.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Not intentional pray, not eating the whole thing, not stalking.
You might as well say cows then too, they are least kill more ppl.
foo@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
It was a joke. You see, I was suggesting that a place with lots of sharks might be called “Shark”, in keeping with the point of the original post.
I am aware that most shark attacks are due to mistaken identity, but it wasn’t meant to be taken too seriously.
Perhaps the reason sharks came to mind before any other animals is because I read this article a couple of days ago: standard.co.uk/…/surfer-bitten-in-half-7232230.ht…
It stands out because the way it was reported makes it sound like the sharks executed a coordinated attack on the surfer. But, again, I didn’t expect to get cross-examined on what I intended to be a humorous remark.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Oh, sorry! :)
I got the joke, but seeing sharks as predators to humans always makes me think of the exaggerated story from the sinking of Indianapolis (wiki/USS_Indianapolis_(CA-35)) with all manner of bs added for fun, and a subsequent money grab books & movie (wiki/Jaws_(film) that shaped entire generations minds bcs fear is so easily monetised.
Imagine being a 400 million years old species & then getting anti-propaganda from a species that live in an environment you can’t even move in (and die quickly). And they dump toxic trash all over your environment. And have been killing you en masse since the day they could.Similar to how made-up stories & fairy tales helped kill off the wolves in Europe even before their unsustainable habitation shrinkage/separation of areas.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
How come no places are called No Wolves or No Lions or No Tigers?
shneancy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
we made doggos out of wolves :)
but lions and tigers… guess they were harder to spot among the foliage
Nikelui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Have you tried with catnip?
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Lions live in the savanna and grassland. They can hide among the grass, but they generally hunt by chasing prey in turns until the prey tires. Tigers are ambush predators and excellent at hiding.
Healthy lions and tigers do not hunt humans. They can kill humans pretty easily, but prefer meatier prey. But when they get too old / sick to hunt wild animals, they might hunt humans out of desperation.
Also Asian lions have become used to humans since their protected area has tribal settlements and is surrounded by villages. Local people sometimes feed the lions, and on youtube you can find videos of people even touching them. (This is dangerous, messes with the lions’ ecology and is illegal, but people do it and stopping them now might cause new problems.)
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Sounds like the beginning of a domestication process. RemindMe in 1000 years.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Actually dogs are a distinct lineage that shares a common ancestor with wolves. Our pals are more closlely related to african painted dogs or India’s endangered dhols. Maybe dingos count, idk if jackals are dogs actually, but I think that’s about it for wild dogs left.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Oh my
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
They don’t really prey on humans & we coexisted without much issues for humans (very much a lot of issues for them).
Eating a baby every so many years doesn’t really count, in nature it’s usually disregarded even if a regular thing bcs of the size difference (and the mortality rate to adulthood). A bit along the lines that babies of all species are food & that doesn’t give you much representative info.
With polar bears, even with villages in the migrating area (their ecosystem is shrinking rapidly), you just can’t be outside, they will munch you.
Hikers can hike through woods with wolves, you can park your car next to lions, … tigers would be borderline (and endangered), but it seems they fear us, they fear injury & our unpredictability. Polar bears don’t back off.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
When tigers prey on people it’s usually when they are old. They get lazy and we are easy. Until the guns and poison come out.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Lazy ~ everything is harder with age, you get physically worn out, all manner of injuries & chronic pains accumulate (teeth & paws included).
Taking the only available option when you need/decide to survive some don’t even consider an option, but a necessity.
NIB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There is a reason there are no lions left in Europe, we killed them. We killed most wildlife and only recently we have tried to bring those somewhat large predators back(wolves, bears, etc).
I am pretty sure if there were polar bears in the Mediterranean, and the rest of the history remained the same, they would also be considered extinct or endangered.
All you need is a lot of humans and time and eventually all big animal threats will be eliminated.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
They don’t have to be threatening, just big, and a good source of meat. Plenty of docile megafauna went extinct in places just as soon as humans arrived.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Did people kill the lions and cave bears and the like in europe? How far back was that. I know a lot of the species got limited to spain and greece in the ice ages.