They already don’t let you use Google pay if you don’t give them control of your phone. This is just tightening the noose a little bit.
Comment on Android won't kill sideloading after all, but new verification rules will make it harder
Feyd@programming.dev 1 day ago
They won’t kill side loading (the fact we even call it side loading instead of simply installing software is a problem). They’ll just shoot it in the knees a little. No big deal.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Feyd@programming.dev 1 day ago
People shouldn’t use google pay in the first place. All of these things being tied together by the same group is a problem in and of itself.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
People shouldn’t use google
pay in the first place. All of these things being tied together by the same group is a problem in and of itself.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Push 3 degrees harder, relent 2 when there’s resistance.
Meaning, 3 steps ahead for them if there’s no resistance. 1 step ahead if there is.
Wait some time, repeat.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Credit card in your phone case, use your banks’ website, 95+% of people right there.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 21 hours ago
Most banks don’t allow payment through their apps anymore
This also doesn’t work for shared cards under one person’s name, which is my main use for this
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That is more the fault/worry of the financial sector and not G. The fact that they gave up this amount of leeway is shocking. Their risk tolerance is very low and giving G the ability to manage virtual cards and allow payments with them is huge in itself.
Even Privacy, which does part of the same thing/idea, still only works for some cards, doesn’t work at all for credit cards (last time I checked), and has been in the sector for a similar amount of time.
G had to lock down Pay to appease the financial sector’s risk management. Anything else was DOA.
Zak@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I wonder what an alternate history where Google chose not to become evil would look like.
What if they had looked at Microsoft’s Palladium proposal and thought, as pretty much everyone outside institutional IT departments did that locked devices with remote attestation was a nightmare scenario best forgotten, refused to build it, and made an effort to prevent anyone else from doing so on top of Android? Safetynet didn’t appear until 5-6 years after Android launched to the public. What if it never did? Android already had enough momentum by that point I don’t think the financial sector could refuse to be on it no matter what risk management said.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, I kind of know what happened in that scenario… because it did. Until Pay, there was Wallet. The original Wallet, not the current one. Wallet had a physical and virtual prepaid debit card, that you would load up and manage in the app. I used it a few times (new tech woo), and distinctively remember ordering at a McDonald’s, the clerk announced the cost, I held my Nexus 7 to the new nfc pad, they started to say ‘uhh no you have to-’ and then a success beep, and their jaw dropped. They thought it was nuts, I told them in a few years ‘this will be everywhere’.
So before Pay, there was Wallet, and it’s own little sandbox of testing if anyone would use this. A couple years later the Wallet card discontinued, and Pay took its place.
XLE@piefed.social 1 day ago
They’ll be able to stop a group of less technically savvy people, who currently are sideloading, from using their phones the way they choose. Apparently that’s good enough for Google.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I don’t know, it’s possible that the number of people already interested in sideloading and savvy enough to do it, but not savvy enough to get over this new hurdle, may be a very small number.
I mean there are already some roadblocks to sideloading and scary messages about safety and security.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I bet you less than 1% of users are even aware and of that less than .1% can’t figure out what they need.