What’s wrong with AM/PM lol. How many countries use 24h? Honesty, because I actua lly never thought about it before.
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biofaust@lemmy.world 3 days ago
AM/PM time is another thing that needs to sink with the USA, just like the Imperial system and Fahrenheit.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 3 days ago
emmanuel_car@fedia.io 3 days ago
It’s extremely common in Europe. I regularly get messages with “15h”, “22h”, etc, but spoken is a bit of a mixed bag, you can usually use 12 hour time and know if it’s AM/PM from context, but sometimes you need to be specific.
Though the weirdest thing I’ve had to learn in Germany about time is, near where I live it’s common to say “one/three quarters [hour]”, instead of “quarter past/to [hour]”, so 10:15 is “one quarter 11”, and 10:45 is “three quarters 11”. It makes a little more sense when you know that “half 11” mean “half to 11”, not “half past” like is typical in English.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
24-hour format when written
12-hour format when spoken
uienia@lemmy.world 1 day ago
24 hour format when written
24 hour format when spoken
sukhmel@programming.dev 2 days ago
But quarter of 11:00 is 2:45
Lysergid@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
You are trolling, right? Like, majority are using 24h.
Disclaimer: generalizations from personal experience.
Some nations use 12h with “at the morning” or “in the evening” in casual verbal conversations. In formal conversations it’s always 24h clock. Just yesterday I was booking an appointment at reception and they proposed me 14:45, so 24h clock, even though it is obvious that place is closed at 2:45 AM. But AFAIK some don’t use 12h even in casual speech, like Germans. Maybe Germans can confirm here.
I think it’s language thing, I never heard of “AM/PM” in language other than English. If you want to tell time in 12h clock it’s usually period of the day, like “2, at night”, “6 in the morning”, “10 in the evening”, which is much more cumbersome than just 2, 6, 22. And imagine it in writing.
witchonabike@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
I’d say Germany is about 50:50 verbally, but also depending on use. If using the 12h clock, one wouldn’t say “2:17”, rather round to “quarter past 2”. The other half of people would use “14:17”. But also if talking about timetables or other occurrences where the rounding would be detrimental, 24h will be u.sed.
Writing, I would say is about 90% 24h clock, because it’s just faster. Here, the divide would be between digital time (“14:17”) and military time (“1417”).
SolidShake@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yeah man I’m trolling. I was raised using 12h and was told 24h was “military time” so obviously I assumed everyone else in the world uses 24h
Tuuktuuk@piefed.europe.pub 3 days ago
I would be interested in knowing whether this was said with sarcasm or without. Because both are plausible!
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 days ago
biofaust@lemmy.world 3 days ago
What is the logic for distinguishing 12AM vs 12PM? Also, you have double of every element and need 2 more sillables each to distinguish.
It’s confusing and inefficient.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Get rid of Daylight Savings Time first, then we’ll talk about 24 hour time.
oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 days ago
I use 24 hour time all the time in my job, I also have to use the time zone. I’m good with converting right now.
Daylight savings… yeah burn the and a hex on those who implemented it.
biofaust@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Right, that’s another one.
Tuuktuuk@piefed.europe.pub 3 days ago
Everything after midday is PM. 12:00:00.00000001 is after midday. Therefore it can only be PM.
That’s the logic I use :)
sukhmel@programming.dev 2 days ago
Historically, the style manual of the United States Government Printing Office used 12 a.m. for noon and 12 p.m. for midnight, though this was reversed in its 2008 editions.
I also remember there were some countries that have 12 AM mean noon, but I may be mistaken as I can’t find a source
biofaust@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You could just as well say the opposite.
BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 3 days ago
In Poland we use both interchangeably. U can use whatever suits you and everyone knows just fine.
fixmycode@feddit.cl 3 days ago
AM/PM requires you to change the value order of numbers in your mind: for the same calendar day, hours are, in order: 12-01-02-…-10-11 AM, 12-01-02-…-10-11 PM.
kamen@lemmy.world 3 days ago
EU fella here. I’m strongly pro-Metric and yet don’t see a problem with 12-hour time. 24-hour is kind of clumsy to use in informal speech or chat/text, but I would use it in all other instances.
biofaust@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I use 24h all the time when speaking, never got strange gazes for doing so. And I never remember which one is midday and which is midnight on the 12-hour time.
kamen@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Well… it depends on the language too. I’m not a native English speaker, but I would use 12-hour in spoken English too - often without even appending “AM” or “PM” because it would be obvious from the context.
uienia@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t think it is clumsy at all, and use it all the time when speaking.