Oh wow, you must have evidence if you’re this confident that you’re correct and everyone else is wrong…
Comment on If God (or any creator of the universe) exists would he be made out of atoms?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Of course not, that’s a property of our existence, of spacetime. God, the Creator, is necessarily outside of the universe, not subordinate or contained by it. This was already addressed and understood by many throughout history, like Levantine and Mediterranean philosophers, but the Romans made anthropomorphic deities and Roman Catholicism did the final heresy and straight up made a man a deity, lol, so the wisdom of the ancients was replaced by state propaganda and Western hedonistic nihilism. 🥲🤷
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Conceive THE GOD and tell me how it’s inside and constrained to its own creation… Go ahead, do the work and post it here.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Conceive THE GOD
I’m gonna stop you right there: how about no. I have no need to do this.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
So you don’t want to think and don’t want others to think either? Fitting.
lath@piefed.social 12 hours ago
Bish please. Man made deity is the most common thread all major civilizations share.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
It’s easy to worship men, most just choose to worship themselves from the lot. It also means nothing. 🤷
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 hours ago
Christianity teaches Jesus is God. Not just Roman Catholicism. Jesus claimed to be God Himself. Jesus isn’t a separate deity, he is God (YHWH) incarnate.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
My man, we will never agree because I am fundamentally a monotheist and your deity is a man. Act good deeds and I’ll act good deeds and maybe we’ll argue in the afterlife. 👋
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
I am fundamentally a monotheist
I am also a monotheist.
Act good deeds and I’ll act good deeds and maybe we’ll argue in the afterlife.
This is a lie from the devil. You can never be good enough for Paradise by your own works. Your works cannot save you. Every good work you do is something you should have been doing anyway - in fact, if you neglect to do a good work when you had an opportunity, that is a sin. Therefore, a good work cannot cancel out your sin. That’s like trying to get out of a fine for running a red traffic light because “I usually stop at red lights”. Or trying to get out of a speeding fine because “99% of the time, I go the speed limit”. Or for theft because “most of the time, I don’t steal. I pay for my products”. Sin cannot go unpunished.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
That’s a lie by Paul only eaten up by those who don’t feel like having personal responsibility, it just pushes you to have “faith without deeds” and makes your actual decisions made by free will, the only thing you’ll be judged on (you’ve read the Sermon on the Mount, come on), inconsequential. Also, a belief in a very cruel God which, seing how he made this whole universe and us for free, is kind of nonsensical. This is the basis of all Western and finally American forms of Trinitarian belief: what I think and what I say and do are fundamentally different and they can be, my belief is a coverup.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Bruh…
Fucking ridiculous and western centric as fuck to say Jesus was the first person labeled “god personified”…
Like, the current Japanese emperor is “believed” to be the descendant of a literal god. And that shit took off long before AD or Jesus. But it undoubtedly happened much earlier all over, we just don’t have evidence of pre-historic times, that’s literally why we call that period “before history”.
Doesn’t mean nothing happened, just that we don’t know what was happening, yet.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
And the christians stole most of their lore from the Hindus and Buddhists anyway.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
I thought we were supposed to have stolen it from the greeks… Or the romans… Or the egyptians… Or this is a sign that it’s just a tiktok level argument
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Well, they also committed the ultimate heresy as well, the difference is that one is still ongoing while the other ones are largely ridiculed and understood as nonsensical. 🤷
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
What?
Loads of people believe both…
It sounds like this is one of those things where you’re just gonna keep saying false things no matter what I explain.
You don’t seem to have any intention to learn and change.
You have an opinion and nothing can change that, which is fucking depressing because loads of people think like that now. So I’m going to block you now because it’s already too much like Idiocracy without running into your willfully ignorant comments again.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
This is a pointless conversation. Yes, many do, nonsense in believed around the world, in many shapes, and I assume we both believe this isn’t productive for humanity as a whole. And yes, do block me, free yourself from being triggered and me from your tantrums. 👋