Comment on If God (or any creator of the universe) exists would he be made out of atoms?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 hours agoThat’s a lie by Paul only eaten up by those who don’t feel like having personal responsibility, it just pushes you to have “faith without deeds” and makes your actual decisions made by free will, the only thing you’ll be judged on (you’ve read the Sermon on the Mount, come on), inconsequential. Also, a belief in a very cruel God which, seing how he made this whole universe and us for free, is kind of nonsensical. This is the basis of all Western and finally American forms of Trinitarian belief: what I think and what I say and do are fundamentally different and they can be, my belief is a coverup.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
If God doesn’t punish sin, then he isn’t just, is imperfect and not God at all. You will be judged on your acts, yes. But your acts cannot save you. Jesus even said “I am The Way, The Truth and The Life, nobody gets to The Father except through Me” “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’”
The Trinity isn’t a western belief. It is believed by Christians in Russia, China, Africa, Europe and the Americas. It is a Christian belief. Jesus was the first to lay out the Trinity - that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all under one Name.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
What do you think ROMAN Catholicism is? 🤔 It certainly isn’t Judaism/Abrahamic monotheism, the law and the prophets that Jesus followed, but its own thing. And if 1 = 3, what kind of lies can’t be built on top of that?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity. They believe the Bishop of Rome is a supreme pontiff over the Church. The Trinity is accepted in Protestantism, and also in the Eastern churches (Greek, Russian, Oriental, Coptic Orthodox, etc)
The Prophet Isaiah wrote of a Child who will be called “Almighty God”.
Isaiah 9:6-7
Jesus also claimed to be YHWH that Isaiah wrote about:
Isaiah 44:6-8
Revelation 22:12-13
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I appreciate the effort because at the very least it shows you believe in something, which is rare in some parts of the world and certainly on Lemmy… but it’s not a dumbing down, it’s literally what it is. And any Trinitarian variant comes from the same Roman core, let’s not split hairs here, it literally started being dogma after the Council of Nicea, prompted and led by Constantine, the Roman emperor! It’s quite literally imperialistic appropriation. Regardless, it makes no sense and it never will. And belief in the unseen necessarily has no evidence to support it, but by itself, Trinitarianism is not internally consistent, things don’t follow nor fit.