not for 1 country though, thier culture could become extinct. they need immigration, plus countries are even trying to solve thier underlying problems, HCOL, and job prospects.
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GraveyardOrbit@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Malthusian myth. Might as well argue for eugenics while you’re at it.
drbluefall@toast.ooo 1 month ago
Trust me, a growing elderly population with a shrinking working-age workforce to sustain them is very much not a good thing.
GraveyardOrbit@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
No. This has been brought up and explained. Despite the rapidly falling birth rate, it will take centuries to overcome population inertia. Changes will not happen anywhere close to fast enough to save us from the environmental crisis we are facing. If anything, it may make things worse as an aging elderly population means the young generation is preoccupied trying to take care of them instead of dealing with the shit they left behind.
Our ideal birth rate would be between neutral to very gradual decline, not the cliff jump we’re currently facing.
dr_scientist@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not sure if ‘brought up and debunked by experts’ is the best argument out there. For example, ‘population inertia’ would cover only one lifespan, not centuries. That is to say, whatever the population is now, it could be 10 people to 100 billion people within 100 years. This is not discounting cultural and psychological factors, but if we’re talking human behaviour, that’s literally everything.
Secondly, the population decline is hardly a cliff. It is decreasing in some countries like Japan, but when added into the global picture, we’re not even at neutral. We’re still growing.
You are absolutely right that a larger aging population is something that must be addressed. However, if increased population pressure leads to a tipping point, like a shift in the AMOC or immigration pressure from hotter areas to cooler areas, our current treatment of old people doesn’t fill me with confidence. I think in a crisis, we would sacrifice them anyway. We would write some sympathetic think pieces about it though.
GraveyardOrbit@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
not good for a countries, culture, and people, and this also devestate the economy eventually
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s only if they keep their current system though. Why would they do that if they can see it won’t work out going forward? Their economic system will need to evolve and that’s ok.
Why should people change their behaviors to suit the economy instead of just changing the economy?
0tan0d@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Can you define what sustainability looks like? One farmer has never been able to produce more. Maybe a country makes less widgets, but I don’t all the doom and gloom when taking care of the basics has never been more attainable for all.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But AI told me AI can solve that.