You probably can, just nobody bothers to do it. My Subaru has installable apps. Hell older Hondas (and possibly current ones) just run android. You can even get to the regular android UI on them.
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melroy@kbin.melroy.org 20 hours ago
I wish I could develop my own apps on my own car. I mean I own the car.. why can't I "sideload" my own created apps? Their apps are sht anyways.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 hours ago
I'm pretty sure the sofware that is running on the information entertainment system from VW is fully proprietary without any way of flashing it with a custom rom or running Linux on it.
I'm not taking about connecting other devices like apple or android phone to this system.
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 19 hours ago
It kind of makes sense to not allow people to do that - just imagine what horrors people will create that totally will kill people. Cars are dangerous.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 15 minutes ago
Your car radio can’t kill people lmao
tabular@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
People have been able to change their own brake pads for as long as cars existed.
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 19 hours ago
There are two things hidden here:
- People totally got killed by doing their own maintenance
- There is a difference between physical maintenance and, well, you know that people will install some buggy self driving app
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
the entertainment system should have zero access to anything that controls the movement of the car. androidauto apps can’t implement self driving functions either. if it’s possible, the car manufacturer was incredibly irresponsible and needs to be sued into oblivion. see, the actual problem is not that irresponsible users could implement “self driving apps”, but that the entertainment system lacks any real security, is filled with vulnerabilities, and often even have remote access capabilities with bluetooth/wifi/cellular, and bad actors could load malware wirelessly that would kill the passengers and whoever else on the road.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
Why are you assuming that the infotainment center in a car can take over steering at all?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
People totally got killed by doing their own maintenance
People have totally gotten killed from maintenance done by a “professional” (new kid on the job at the shop.)
I watch YouTuber CarCareNut and he’s shown many stupid mistakes made by dealerships.
I assure you I take greater care doing repairs than a tech who will get yelled at if they don’t finish the job fast.
tabular@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
If saftey is your concern I hope you do not blindly trust manufacturers given their history of “safety and security”. My concern is software freedom: being in control of your own computing (instead of the creator being in control). All software has bugs, but at least 3rd party software isn’t intentionally adding anti-features and spyware.
grue@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
100% fearmongering bullshit designed to erode property rights. Cars have been completely “open” throughout their entire history until recently, and the problems caused by irresponsible owner modification have been both negligible and entirely acceptable (compared to the alternative of going full-blown police state to stop them).
pahlimur@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
They would probably have a panic attack if they learned about megasquirt. Cars being locked down is so unnatural that most of their design allows them to be controlled by open source solutions.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 hours ago
Of course I'm talking about the information entertainment system. Not the main Can bus that is handling breaking or whatever...
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
You can, but it’s a Google filled minefield. A good view of it is reading into all of the trouble of using Android Auto in GrapheneOS without destroying all the privacy protections. It’s essentially impossible to get navigation going without doing so, but audio for music and phone calls can be done with some hoop jumping. You’re still probably better off just using bluetooth though.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
There are open source navigation apps. No need for google.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
No, you misunderstand what I was trying to say, so I probably didn’t communicate it well. You cannot use any of them, open source or not, without allowing the Google Play Services some rather invasive permissions. That’s the Google I was referring to.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Best thing to do is remove google play services if at all possible. Installing microg will solve most issues. This of course means rooting the device. Which is admittedly not an easy task when dealing with head units.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 hours ago
.? No the information entertainment system is fully proprietary as far as I know. Without any way of flashing something else like Linux on it.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
www.automotivelinux.org
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Not only will Automotive Linux not save us it will power the new proprietary car systems