The US government has a financial vested interest in the AI bubble. They will artificially keep the bubble going. The AI bubble collapses when American society and government collapses.
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themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks agoLets have hope, if the AI bubble bursts prices will go down.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t threaten me with a good time
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The United States has less and less influence on the world every day.
chocrates@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
If it bursts the ram will be on graphic card in a warehouse somewhere. We still will need to ramp back up consumer production I assume.
ulterno@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Are they using the same ICs in the AI modules as they are in DIMMs?
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not the same chips, but ddr5, gddr7, and hbm2 are made off the same wafers in the same plants. The issue is allocation in wafer and production time skewing towards the higher-margin items. DDR5 additionally is being made more into the server ecc variant, which companies are buying in droves for cost-efficient MOE inference.
ulterno@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Well, the server ECC variant is still pretty useful for desktop workloads. Just make sure AMD always supports it in the next generations. If it’s still a DIMM, then it can be sold right away.
GDDR7, again, if the chip has the required pins as in GPUs, then GPU manufacturers can simply buy them, test them for a few hours maybe, and pop them in their lineups with a bit of re-calculation of traces (in case the exact pinout differs). Of course you get some re-soldering damage, but there’s not much you can do about it. On the other hand, if the GDDR7 is in GPUs already, most the companies would require is to alter the firmwares a bit and sell refurbished units.
HBM2. Seems like it is possible to get slottable modules with HBM2. Pretty sure some industrious people in China will find a good use for them. Perhaps with RISC V processors?
And the AI specialised units shouldn’t be fully useless either. Remember the cancer studies case?
It is still useful computing ability that can be used well by those who know how.
de_lancre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
if the AI bubble bursts prices will go down
Considering how everything tied and glued together in IT, when AI bubble will blow up, not only it will collapse US economy, it will also increase all prices in IT, as I see it. ARM? Belongs to Nvidia. x86? Basically a duopoly of AMD and Intel. Anything IT and corp related? Most probably located or entirely American. Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc. you name it.
Whole IT right now is like that dude from “it goes down” meme
bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
ARM doesn’t belong to Nvidia. They tried to buy it a few years ago and failed. Its majority owned by a Japanese conglomerate.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah, it’d bring prices crashing down as the market gets flooded with all the used hardware from the AI data centers being cleared out and auctioned off in bulk lots by bankruptcy courts and debt collectors, leading people to buy them by the truck loads and put on ebay for pennies on the original retail dollar.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or they keep the prices up because consumers got used to them.
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t think I can get used to $1000 64 GB Ram.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It’s not like RAM has never been this expensive before. It’s still at a historically low price.