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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  techwireasia.com/…/china-open-source-ai-models-gl…

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    DeepSeek being an LLM is far from open source and especially not „truly“ open. The very article you linked basically says as much but wraps it in pretty words. Talking about ignorance.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yes I found out I was wrong, and I thought I had edited most of the wrong posts claiming deepseek is open source.
      You are right it isn’t, despite articles claiming it is.

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• A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  DeepSeek the software is open source (MIT license).

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unless the dataset, weighting, and every aspect is open source, it’s not truly open source, as the OSI defines it.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Bullshit, the dataset is massive, and a dataset may include bias. You would always want to use a dataset that fir your needs.

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      • wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        no,

        your changing the definition of open source software. which has been around a lot longer than AI has.

        source code is what defines open source.

        what deepseek has is open weights. they publish the results of their learning only. not the source that produced it.

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  • breadguy@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    same with qwen, ernie, minimax, and kimi

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It‘s open weights but definitely not

    truly open source

    Feel free to blame the technology as a whole but open source doesn‘t make exceptions for AI models.

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• breadguy@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  every major chinese model is open source

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Where can I see the source code?

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• sobchak@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Alibaba has released Qwen models under Apache licenses (and they are some of the best models that can reasonably be ran locally). Some argue that models aren’t really open source unless the training code and datasets are made available though.

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• Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They are releasing lots of open weight models. If you want to run AI stuff on your own hardware, Chinese models are generally the best.

  They also don’t care about copyright law/licensing, so going forward they will be training their models on more material than Western companies are legally able to.

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