Comment

Comment on Oracle made a $300 billion bet on OpenAI. It's paying the price.

<- View Parent

wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

no,

your changing the definition of open source software. which has been around a lot longer than AI has.

source code is what defines open source.

what deepseek has is open weights. they publish the results of their learning only. not the source that produced it.

source

Sort:hotnew top

Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Still debatable, the weights are the code. That’s a bit like saying “X software is not open source because it has equations but it doesn’t include the proofs that they’re derived from”.

source
- wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  what has been published by deep seek is the music, not the software that made the music.
  
  source
- phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  the weights are the code
  
  In the same way as an Excel spreadsheet containing a crosstab of analytics results is “the code.”
  
  It’s processed input for a visualization/playback mechanism, not source code.
  
  source
- CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  And LLM is simply such a bad example for Open Source in general. They couldn‘t have chosen a worse example to make their point. That‘s what’s frustrates me.
  
  source
Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

your changing the definition of open source software.

techwireasia.com/…/china-open-source-ai-models-gl…

The tide has turned. With the December 2024 launch of DeepSeek’s free-for-all V3 large language model (LLM) and the January 2025 release of DeepSeek’s R1 (the AI reasoning model that rivals the capabilities of OpenAI’s O1), the open-source movement started by Chinese firms has sent shockwaves through Silicon Valley and Wall Street.

I’ve read similar claims in other articles, I have no idea why they would call it open source if it’s not?

source
- wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  can you show me the actual source code?
  
  the human readable code, not the weights.
  
  source
  - Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The (claimed) source:
    github.com/deepseek-ai
    
    Investigating further I can see it is NOT open source. All the articles saying that are lying, probably unknowingly just as I believed the claim, they probably did too, and I’m NOT being sarcastic!
    I have no idea why publishing these “weights” is considered open source, it has nothing to do with Open Source as defined by OSI, which I believe has a historical right to the term.
    
    I apologize.
    
    source
    wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    forgive my snarkiness. its usually the quickest way to this realization.
    
    source
    -> View More Comments