You can tell who’s going to grow up into the current generations tech illiterate elderly based on how people talk about AI today.
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bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip 1 month agoI will say, it helps a ton within VS code.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 month ago
pahlimur@lemmy.world 1 month ago
When AI is actually invented I’ll call it AI. Right now we have a steroid juiced parrot that’s based on old school machine learning. Its great at summarizing simple data, but terrible at real tasks.
This is more people who aren’t dumb telling the marketing teams to stop hyping something that doesn’t exist. The dot com boom is echoing. The profit will never materialize.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But the profit absolutely can materialize because it is useful.
Right now the problem is hardware / data center costs, but those can come down at a per user level.
They just need to make it useful enough within those cost constants which is 100%wl without a doubt possible, it’s just a matter of can they do it before they run out of money.
pahlimur@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The current machine learning models (AI for the stupid) rely on input data, which is running out.
Processing power per watt is stagnating. Moors law hasn’t been true for years.
Who will pay for these services? The dot com bubble destroyed everyone who invested in it. Those that “survived” sprouted off of the corpse of that recession. LLMs will probably survive, but not in the way you assume.
Nvidia helping openAI survive is a sign that the bubble is here and ready to blow.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 1 month ago
It is unlikely to turn a profit because the returns need to be greater than the investment for there to be any profit. The trends show that very few want to pay for this service. I mean, why would you pay for something that’s the equivalent of asking someone online or in person for free or very little cost by comparison?
Furthermore, it’s a corporation that steals from you and doesn’t want to be held accountable for anything. For example, the chat bot suicides and the fact that their business model would fall over if they actually had to pay for the data that they use to train their models.
The whole thing is extremely inefficient and makes us more dumb via atrophy. Why would anyone want to third party their thinking process? It’s like thinking everyone wants mobility scooters.
Psythik@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah seriously it’s so pathetic. Either embrace tech, or get left behind. The vast majority of Lemmy users might not like it but personally I refuse to get left behind.
LLMs can be a great tool if you’re aware of their limitations. Stick to the more advanced models (avoid the “fast” ones that don’t actually do any googling), check the sources it provides, be skeptical of everything it says, and you’ll be fine. An LLM helped me with a relationship issue I was having, and even diagnosed an issue I didn’t even know my car had when I asked it an unrelated question about fuel trims, saving me hundreds by recognizing a problem I was unaware of before it killed my catalytic converter.
Given that I would probably be single by now, and would have never discovered the issue without an LLM going, “hey by the way…”, I am extremely grateful to OpenAI for what they’ve done for me and the future of humanity. Why would I hate on a technology that saved me nearly $1000?
What’s most exciting to me is that the tech is still in its infancy, and it’s already this good. The AI bubble will eventually burst, and the tech will eventually get good enough to shut up all the naysayers. AI just needs to get past its “growing pains” stage.
Stay strong; ignore the haters, and we’ll weather this storm. Eventually Lemmy will find something new to hate.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I like this comment because both AI haters and people who see that there are some upsides to it can read it using their own bias and agree with it.
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I pick and choose when to use it. I understand it’s limitations & strengths. Most of those people, could do better in life if they had a Chat with an AI. It’s helpful for free talk therapy & step by step manuals.
arbo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
the thing is, it’s not 100% bad, but it’s being crammed into everything because the capitalists want to sell sell sell. sometimes what is made sucks, and will definitely contribute to a dead internet.
but i also lean on it to generate repetitive bits of code. i still read it all and tweak considerably and it’s cool to make my gpu do work in this way.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ya, I don’t want it shoved in my face. I want to choose how and where I use it without them trying to compromise my entire device in the process.
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Omg yes, the dead internet. That still blows my mind, honestly. I understand it logically, I just don’t know how we got there.
smh@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
My main use case is “hey, I need to make a change to this system I touch once a year. The documentation is thorough, dense, and I don’t know where to look. What button do I push to do Y?”
sobchak@programming.dev 1 month ago
I find it detrimental to my productivity when integrated into an editor/IDE. I’ve found the “autocomplete” causes subtle bugs that I end up overlooking because I’m trying to go fast and putting too much trust in the generated lines/snippets. Tracing down these bugs becomes a huge time-sink. I do use chatbots in the browser for various things; mostly as a kind of “search” for alternative ways of doing things, frameworks, libraries, and algorithms. Agentic vibe-coding is ok for small one-off tools/scripts you wouldn’t need to maintain, IMO.
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I’m a noob to coding & packages building. I need the crutch for now, honestly, but I assume once you start correcting like Ai, like your having to do, it’s not worth it.