Comment on Framework stops selling separate DDR5 RAM modules to fight scalpers

tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• monkeyman512@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t see how it would push manufacturers to do that. I can see how it would make consumers more open to soldered RAM if RAM is so expensive there is no way you are going to upgrade it later. But, I would be interested to get your thoughts as I miss stuff that feels obvious I’m hindsight all the time.

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If consumers aren’t going to or are much less likely to upgrade, then that affects demand from them, and one would expect manufacturers to follow what consumers demand.

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      RAM prices will come down sometime after the AI bubble bursts and they start making more DDR5 again.

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      • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        1. Prices rarely, if ever, go down in a meaningful degree. Stuff like this is partially necessity and partially a REALLY good excuse to see what the price ceiling actually is… and then turn that into the floor moving forward. Just look at gas prices
        2. The “AI Bubble” is likely to be on the same level as the Dotcom Bubble and the like. It is going to be brutal and a LOT of people are going to lose their jobs… and then much of the same tech will still dominate just with more realistic expectations. And that will still need large amounts of memory
        3. If the “AI Bubble” really is as bad as people seem to want it to be: A LOT of the vendors who make the parts you are buying RAM to use are going to be gutted. And then RAM production will drop drastically. Which will decrease supply and…

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I remember when OEMs just didn’t rape you on RAM and storage.

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  • pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except for Alienware

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    • RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      well aliens are known for violating people so it’s on brand for them

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• djdarren@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ll never forget buying my first MacBook in ’07 and asking the guy how much it would cost to bump the RAM from 1Gb to 2Gb. He told me in no uncertain terms that I’d be better off looking online for a cheaper price.

  Well, in the intervening years they certainly have closed that loophole.

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  • wavebeam@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I worked at a knock-off Apple Store in the PNW from 2009 to 2013 and I told this same line to MANY people. The thing about being an “Apple Specialist” is that we sold more than Apple did, including “aftermarket” RAM modules to do that upgrade on-site for customers, saving those customer money AND netting us more profit than if we had sold them the Apple SKU with more RAM. When Apple closed this loophole it was not just at the expense of end-users, but their channel partners too.

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    • djdarren@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I ended up dropping 4Gb in that one. For some reason it could only see 3Gb, but it made it immensely more useful. It got me through a radio production degree and only got replaced because I happened to find myself in a position to be able to afford a 13” Pro a few years later. In fact, it’s still in a box somewhere.

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The Framework desktop already has soldered ram. That’s because AMD only sells that CPU like that.

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• istdaslol@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s kinda crazy. Got myself a new thinkpad and the 2nd 32GB stick would cost another 150 bucks. Didn’t knew that retail they are now at above 200 xD

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• anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah I miss the days of buying a mid spec MacBook and then immediately doubling or quadrupling the ram with Corsair or similar 3rd party ram.

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