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MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• madjo@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Meneer Van Dale Wacht Op Antwoord (Exponents, multiplication, division, root, addition, subtraction in Dutch).

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  • MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just rolls off the toungue

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  • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Wait is Antwoord the same meaning in Afrikaans? Does the name of the band Die Antwoord literally mean The Subtraction?

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    • madjo@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I wrote the Dutch mnemonic not the actual Dutch word for multiplication etc.

      “Antwoord” is “answer” in Dutch and Afrikaans

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      • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Ah, thank you!

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• lmuel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  KlaPuStri

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  • biggeoff@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Klammer, Punkt, Strich?

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  • MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    IT’S PEMBDURRS

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• alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  In French there’s no acronym. We just learn it. It’s not that hard.

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  • MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s not like “PEMDAS” is easy to remember, as “Pemdas” as word does not exist.

    We didn’t have anything to remember it by either, you just learn the order of operations and that’s it.

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• 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Math isn’t flexible like that though. You’re asking for flexibility where there is none. Sure pemdas is technically arbitrary but having a set convention for that is strictly necessary and good teaching.

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  • zaperberry@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not understanding the logic doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

    We created math and devised a method to ensure that equations can be solved in a way that leads everybody to the same result. If you don’t use the rule, you don’t get the same answer as someone who does. In this circumstance, yes, you do teach by nailing down a strict rule as it’s foundational to the language (math) that we’ve created.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    But there is logic behind them.

    1+2+3=6 and 2+3+1=6 also.

    But 1+23 and 23+1 won’t come out the same if you do the calculations in just any order. It’s not always possible to order them left to right like in the second version, and if we use parentheses for everything we can end up with an illegible mess. I actually tried to type an example of how silly it could look and lost track of my own parentheses nesting before I got very far.

    Do you have any other suggestion for how to notate an equation which would make memorization of PEMDAS unnecessary?

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  • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    🤨

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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Bro doesn’t know how math works

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Muricans panic without acronyms, let’em be or they’ll catch fire.

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• victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Works the same in Swedish. 👌

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• wieson@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Die Klammer sagt: „Erst komme ich!“ dann gilt die Regel „Punkt vor Strich“

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• enki@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  KlaHoPS

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