It’d be easier to simply hack the software and reprogram it to just act normal
Duck their software licenses. I buy a car, I pay for it, it’s MY car and I will very much decide how to use it
Comment on Hyundai car requires $2000, app & internet access to fix your brakes - what the actual f
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Is it possible to retrofit a used “computer” vehicle and remove all digital tech to make it electromechanical again, where the owner has complete control of what they purchased?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 hours ago
The problem is bugs being far bigger issue. Imagine a bug/crash causing your throttle to get stuck and brakes not working.
If it happens now, at least it’s the manufacturer who’d be liable, I hope.I want a completely separate emergency shutdown+brake.
db2@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Possible? Yes. Practical? No. You can’t just cut the harnesses out and suddenly it’s a different engine, you’d have to replace what you deleted with something and that something might not exist yet because there’s no money in developing it.
Jhex@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
they dont charge those paywalls to dealers, this is just a way to force consumers to service their cars with expensive partners
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
It’ll be reverse engineered and a tool on AliExpress for $50 within a few months.
Then it’s just an arms race between the OTA updates and the pirates.
Jhex@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
yeap but then we lose warranty…
this would be easily addressed through legislation but our govs are just too corrupt to function
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Haltech ECU, but the BCM controls the other parts of the vrhicle like locks, windows, seats, radio etc it’s possible with a lot of work.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
“All” digital tech?
I don’t think most people realize that any powertrain new enough to even have fuel injection is going to be a “computer vehicle” in some capacity. How are you with carburetors?
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
That’s not really true. The first fuel injection systems were mechanical. The first one of those used in a gasoline-powered 4-stroke car engine was in 1955. Bosch mechanical FI systems were common in higher-end European cars from then on. Digital electronic fuel injection controllers weren’t common until the 1980s, though there were some EFI systems controlled by what were essentially crude analog computers as far back as the late 1950s. I know that Volvo had such a system in the late 60s since I owned one. It was extremely reliable.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
I’m great at carburetors. Especially the Holley 4 barrel carb. Trial and error made me good at it. I had the freedom to try. We no longer have that. So, yes, all digital tech. Just electromechanical so we can save huge amounts of dollars by not getting involved in the “repair industry”. Transmissions are a different beast but if all the “Chilton’s’” auto repair manuals have not been secreted away and completely destroyed then I at least have a fighting chance to figure it out.