Sorry to break it to you
Comment on Women and men and consensual sex
fizzle@quokk.au 1 month ago
Hyperbole, surely.
Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I guess, they might not be talking about individuals, but rather humanity as a whole. So, if a person rapes someone and this becomes publicly known, they will generally be shamed more than a woman having consensual sex (even though some rapists also get to be president, I guess).
But across the board, we have insults that every kid knows, which equate to “woman having (consensual) sex bad”, as well as gossip of the like, and even men being shamed for going out with a woman who has sex.
Compared to that, rape is a rarely talked about…ICCrawler@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What immediately came to my mind was the phrase, “A key that opens a lot of locks is a good key, a lock that is opened by a lot of keys is a shitty lock.” And generally, that’s something you’re a lot more likely to bump into than rape, which is a much more uncomfortable to talk about for a lot of people and so it’s almost never going to be brought up. Combine that with some rape cases that get swept under the rug with phrases like, “boys will be boys,” “she was asking for it,” or even something as outright cruel as “it’s the only way she’d get laid anyways,” and yeah, where OP is coming from isn’t too hard to understand.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Combine that with some rape cases that get swept under the rug with phrases like, “boys will be boys,” “she was asking for it,” or even something as outright cruel as “it’s the only way she’d get laid anyways,” and yeah, where OP is coming from isn’t too hard to understand.
And yet, cases of male victims of female rapists get “swept under the rug” basically 100% of the time, but the outrage toward that is non-existent, even though the also-swept-under-the-rug fact is that women rape men just as often as men rape women:
And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication—at virtually the same rates as women reported rape (both 1.1 percent in 2010, and 1.7 and 1.6 respectively in 2011).
In other words, if being made to penetrate someone was counted as rape—and why shouldn’t it be?—then the headlines could have focused on a truly sensational CDC finding: that women rape men as often as men rape women.
The whole reason a woman raping a man isn’t simply called “rape” in these statistics is because of successful explicitly anti-male lobbying by feminists like Mary Koss, and NOW, who don’t think it “counts” as rape when the man is the victim of a woman.
As one of these male victims of a female rapist, it’s always extremely frustrating to see women complaining to men about things like under-reporting, or men who get away with it, when it’s so much more of a problem with the sexes reversed that the average person believes that it is something that is literally impossible. A boy got molested by his female teacher, and she won child support from him! Could you in a million years imagine a male rapist achieving such a legal judgment from a girl he molested?
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
A boy got molested by his female teacher, and she won child support from him! Could you in a million years imagine a male rapist achieving such a legal judgment from a girl he molested?
While I think all your other points nay have merit, I need to point out child support is the birth right of the child who exists through no fault of their own. Both parents owe regardless of the circumstances. So, yes, I could imagine that legal judgement as it would be the only correct one.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I honestly cannot comprehend some countriea. Where I live, we don’t talk about raoe because it’s a goddamn tragedy. You can jest or shame virgins or sluts because in the end it has little meaning - but rape isn’t a joke, damn it.
And it isn’t generally swept under the rug here either. Even if woman won’t drag you to court out of shame or guilt or anything, most folk who know will lynch you if they know what you’ve done.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Yeah, the complaint isn’t so much that we should be talking about rape all the time, but rather that we should stop shaming consensual sex.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
Compared to that, rape is rarely talked about…
There are a few colorful insults on that. Maybe not as common, but that’s more the fault of unimaginative insulters.
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
checks notes
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