Comment on I finally understand Cloudflare Zero Trust tunnels

• helix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They’re protecting scammers and other bad actors, their infra is run by junior DevOps “engineers” and every now and then they find another way to fuck half the internet.

  They’re part of what’s wrong with USA-centric hosting nowadays.

  Others posted good articles and thoughts aswell :)

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  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    and every now and then they find another way to fuck half the internet.

    Like literally today lol, it has been giving me shit all morning.

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    • helix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      See, I’m right. 💩

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  • amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is there a European equivalent? At the moment I only do ddns with them and they are my registrar but don’t use the tunnela

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    • helix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Countless DDNS vendors. You could set up a simple 1€/month ionos.com server and do DDNS yourself or rent DDNS from inwx.de or do.de or something.

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• Technus@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Could start with the fact that they go down about once a month now and take half the Internet with them.

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  • lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah OK, so when you said “terrible company” you meant performance? I’ve had great performance with them so far fortunately

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    • helix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For me it’s reliability and generally scummy business practices.

      They protect scammers and sell big data centres solutions that protect from DoS attacks 🤡

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    • Technus@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wasn’t the original person that replied.

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s less a problem with cloud flare it self and more just a issue of anything the scope and scale of what they have become. Even a better company would face the same issues.

    It’s fair to argue that they we should spread things out more to make them more resilient.

    But that’s more a knock against centralization than the service at hand. It’s also fair to show that they’re good enough that they were able to reach this point. Or more accurately. Everyone else was worse so they reached this point.

    It always feels like blaming cloudford at this point is much like blaming the horse for its Rider.

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  • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re having a major outage as I’m reading this, lol.

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    • Technus@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know, after I posted that I was looking at their outages and worrying that my 1/month estimate was an exaggeration cause they hadn’t had a big one in a bit.

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• Sunny@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This read is a good start:

  マリウス.com/thoughts-on-cloudflare/

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  • deltapi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Looks like a totally legit domain. Much trusting.

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    • guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can’t remember the exact technical details of it, but that’s how links are generated for non-Latin languages. If you go to the actual site it will display as the intended url

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    • Sunny@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Normally when i post these links i add a notice, as it seems not too many people know yet, but as suggest by another comment: this is puny code.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode

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    • Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s punycode. Get with the times.

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      • deltapi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I just asked 2 IT guys “hey, do you know what punycode is?” And the answer I received was “I’ve heard of it but don’t know what it is.”
        Thank you for informing me, but I’m far from alone in not recognizing it or having knowledge of what punycode is.

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    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It is - that’s just how URLs in non-latin fonts look unfortunately. It, (and a ton of tech infrastructure) is hugely English/latin script biased.

      The URL is Japanese.

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    • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      just access it through cloudfarse… you’ll be fine!

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• HurlingDurling@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  1. You are allowing a large facelesscoorporation that has ties to both government and big tech to setup a back door to your network.
  2. Your data is encrypted to the outside world, but all your packets are unencrypted to cloudflare so they can check them safely, and can be easily analyzed by cloudflare before encrypting them to the outside world.
  3. Its free so you are the product.
  4. They protect scammers.

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