Comment on I finally understand Cloudflare Zero Trust tunnels

helix@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Would you be willing to share more about your position? I’ve been happy with their service, but want to be fully informed about who I’m doing business with

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  • helix@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re protecting scammers and other bad actors, their infra is run by junior DevOps “engineers” and every now and then they find another way to fuck half the internet.

    They’re part of what’s wrong with USA-centric hosting nowadays.

    Others posted good articles and thoughts aswell :)

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and every now and then they find another way to fuck half the internet.

      Like literally today lol, it has been giving me shit all morning.

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      • helix@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        See, I’m right. 💩

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    • amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there a European equivalent? At the moment I only do ddns with them and they are my registrar but don’t use the tunnela

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      • helix@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Countless DDNS vendors. You could set up a simple 1€/month ionos.com server and do DDNS yourself or rent DDNS from inwx.de or do.de or something.

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  • Technus@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Could start with the fact that they go down about once a month now and take half the Internet with them.

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    • lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah OK, so when you said “terrible company” you meant performance? I’ve had great performance with them so far fortunately

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      • helix@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        For me it’s reliability and generally scummy business practices.

        They protect scammers and sell big data centres solutions that protect from DoS attacks 🤡

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      • Technus@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I wasn’t the original person that replied.

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    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s less a problem with cloud flare it self and more just a issue of anything the scope and scale of what they have become. Even a better company would face the same issues.

      It’s fair to argue that they we should spread things out more to make them more resilient.

      But that’s more a knock against centralization than the service at hand. It’s also fair to show that they’re good enough that they were able to reach this point. Or more accurately. Everyone else was worse so they reached this point.

      It always feels like blaming cloudford at this point is much like blaming the horse for its Rider.

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    • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re having a major outage as I’m reading this, lol.

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      • Technus@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I know, after I posted that I was looking at their outages and worrying that my 1/month estimate was an exaggeration cause they hadn’t had a big one in a bit.

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  • Sunny@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This read is a good start:

    マリウス.com/thoughts-on-cloudflare/

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    • deltapi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Looks like a totally legit domain. Much trusting.

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      • guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I can’t remember the exact technical details of it, but that’s how links are generated for non-Latin languages. If you go to the actual site it will display as the intended url

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      • Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s punycode. Get with the times.

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      • Sunny@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Normally when i post these links i add a notice, as it seems not too many people know yet, but as suggest by another comment: this is puny code.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode

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      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is - that’s just how URLs in non-latin fonts look unfortunately. It, (and a ton of tech infrastructure) is hugely English/latin script biased.

        The URL is Japanese.

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      • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        just access it through cloudfarse… you’ll be fine!

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  • HurlingDurling@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1. You are allowing a large facelesscoorporation that has ties to both government and big tech to setup a back door to your network.
    2. Your data is encrypted to the outside world, but all your packets are unencrypted to cloudflare so they can check them safely, and can be easily analyzed by cloudflare before encrypting them to the outside world.
    3. Its free so you are the product.
    4. They protect scammers.

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• yxp@lemmy.radio ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It seems you’re right

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  • helix@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hahhahaha 😄

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• petersr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tbf, I dont this Argo Tunnel has anything to do with zero trust. The product has just been nested under that umbrella.

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