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turdas@suppo.fi ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• notreallyhere@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  yeah but he’s quoting from heaven

  didn’t they teach you anything in science class?

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  • Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The cloud. Didn’t they teach you anything in it class?

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• T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Also wasn’t white

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He might quote himself, which was then put in the Bible, tho.

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• BenVimes@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Let’s be correct here: the Christian Bible was canonized centuries after Jesus’s death. That’s not the same thing as being written.

  I still appreciate the point you’re making, though.

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  • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The New Testament was written after his death too, some parts of it earlier than others. I think it’s also a pretty safe bet that there was a lot of editorializing over the centuries, since AFAIK the earliest surviving copies of anything are from the 2nd or 3rd centuries CE.

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    • Mr_Fish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There’s probably less editorializing than you’d think. At least less that was successful in being hidden. There are verses that we know we’re added in later that seem like they fit in perfectly. Example: “for yours is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, now and forever” at the end of the Lord’s prayer. That verse feels right at home there, but based on early copies and differences between copies as Christianity spread, we know that wasn’t original.

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      • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Well, the gospels themselves are an example of editorializing. None of the gospels are written by the disciples themselves, most if not all of them were written after all the apostles would have been dead, and it is widely agreed that two of them (Matthew and Luke) are basically fanfiction spin-offs of Mark and a second, long lost source.

        To clarify, I think by the time the stories were canonized, the narrative was likely more or less established. But in the 2-3 centuries before that I expect it to have been quite varied. We have no real way of knowing either way because there are very few surviving scraps of manuscripts from that early on.

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  • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ‘this fan fiction is now mainstream’.

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Some parts of the bible are largely shown to have been written about 400 years later

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    • BenVimes@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t see where I said otherwise.

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      • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The implication is incorrect.

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• SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The old testament did exist, and Jesus misquoted and misunderstood the fuck out of it.

  Matthew 22:41-45

  Jesus asks the pharisees how the messiah can be the son of David when David calls the holy spirit “lord,” referring to psalm 110 whish starts “the lord said to my lord.” It’s a ridiculous claim to start with, but it’s not even the correct understanding. The narrator is not David, they’re recounting what happened to David. The lord (God) said to my lord (king David). At no time does David even speak in psalm 110.

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• Mr_Fish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He would and did quote the old testament. The prophets books were written at least a few hundred years before he lived, and those were the latest of the old testament to be written.

  The new testament was written about 100 years after he lived, and canonized a few hundred years later.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  And not in English

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