I do not agree
Yes, it sometimes can be difficult and frustrating, but so long as someone, anyone, is willing to try and learn and fail and retry, they can get my help
Have you forgotten that you too started at 0?
Comment on Is self-hosting becoming too gatekept by power users?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
“Has anyone noticed that medical doctors gate-keep people doing open heart surgery?”
Why do you assume self-hosting is and can be trivial? It is NOT for everybody. You should have some base level of technical knowledge. You should expect to need to learn some things. It’s not a badge of honor, it’s experience.
My project focuses on building a tool that makes self-hosting more accessible without sacrificing data ownership
Good luck with that.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Have you forgotten that you too started at 0?
Not at all. In fact I remember the day my server was hacked because I’d left a service running that had a vulnerability in it. I remember changing passwords, calling my bank to ensure there had been no fraudulent charges, etc. I remember “war driving” to find vulnerable WiFi networks. I remember changing default passwords on a service setup by a client of mine.
As I said - it’s not gate-keeping it’s experience.
Yes, it sometimes can be difficult and frustrating, but so long as someone, anyone, is willing to try and learn and fail and retry, they can get my help
Teaching is “gate-keeping” apparently. You can’t tell somebody that they need to learn something! You just need to give them a link to a url and say “run this thing as root and your stuff will work - totally not a scam tho”.
moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 14 hours ago
Not at all. In fact I remember the day my server was hacked because I’d left a service running that had a vulnerability in it.
Was this server on an internal network?
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 14 hours ago
Using wireguard to VPN into your home network is mostly trivial (using tailscale to do so is actually trivial, for my usage of the word, but introduces an untrusted company into the mix), opening your local network to the outernet is not, expect pain.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 16 hours ago
Self-hosting is trivial and everyone can do it.
Exposing services to the internet is not.
Just like everyone doing open heart surgery on dummies is fine, everyone self-hosting in their own network is fine. You can buy hardware right now that connects to power and wifi and you are self-hosting.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
The users who are being talked about here probably don’t get that exposing your machine to the Internet carries risk. That’s the point.
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
There is literally a thread somewhere on my Lemmy I need to try and find just recently that shows this perfectly. Someone made a thread asking how they can self host their images for backup from their phone and naturally everyone pointed them to immich. And they immediately started complaining and bitching that they could not access it from outside their local network. Instead of asking how to fix that they were like what the hell is the point if I have to be on the same Wi-Fi this is stupid. And they basically did not want to engage with the people being like hey you need to either make a reverse proxy or open a port on your router. They should not be self hosting
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yep, that sounds like the poster child for this phenomenon.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
So is open heart surgery. Unless you want it to end successfully.
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I wouldn’t equate installing proxmox on an old pc to open heart surgery. It’s pretty basic stuff and you can follow guides on how to install services in a container or vm. People are interested in things like pihole, home assistant, arr stacks, nas, and better control over their network. It’s definitely not rocket surgery.