Be realistic, not many people using apple devices (or any mobile devices tbh) are going to care or be intelligent enough to pull an open source alternative
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shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
The next headline will read, OpenStreetMaps gains users as Apple adds ads to maps.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
natecox@programming.dev 14 hours ago
“People using devices I don’t like are stupid” is among the dumbest of takes.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
No, it’s more that the average person will choose an iPhone or Android Phone and use whatever is built-in instead of looking for an alternative, and this describes the vast majority of people.
It’s not the device they picked, it’s that they’re part of the majority.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The point is there’s no reason for android edglords to be all anagonistic and bring intelligence into it.
JohnnyCash@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
The majority sucks if you’re a snowflake.
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
People that like iphones hail Steve jobs. The guy that wore one single outfit because he hated choice, and made an operating system out of that believe system. On top of walled garden crap like not even being able to use Bluetooth for sending things around.
Yes the iPhone is pinnacle of stupid.
natecox@programming.dev 13 hours ago
I like my iPhone and I think Jobs was a twat.
The world does not exist in dichotomies like you’re asserting.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
None of what you said is true.
JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
Probably those iPhone users look at you and think that it’s so stupid to test several apps when the default ones work great.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Apple deliberately markets to those who willing to trade their virtual freedoms for a pseudo-luxury brand (with enough QC defects to kickstart Louis Rossmann’s career), a UI filled with (buggy) eye candy, “social status” (Blue bubbles) and “convenience” in the form of never having the option of installing software outside their walled garden.
With the exception of those who work at the company and are mandated to have a device, and those who use iOS for certain apps exclusive to the platform required for their employment, they are the technologically inept. Manuals scare them, a terminal prompt would make them jump up and call IT over right away. Installing an application manually is “scary”. If something went wrong with the hardware, they would throw away the device rather than fix it (thanks to Apple). Trying to explain to the the consequences of their choices is a fool’s errand.
They are the marketable, eager cult members for Apple to puppet on virtual strings. The only thing that surprises me is that they haven’t enshittified with ads sooner. I guess that impacts their “luxury” brand image.
natecox@programming.dev 12 hours ago
The dumbest of takes indeed.
I am a software engineer with literally decades of experience, I was self hosting websites on personal Linux boxes via dynamic dns before it was cool, and I basically live in my terminal. I’m a proud NixOS user and I spend about as much time shelled in over SSH as I do not.
I use an iPhone because it’s a fucking phone, I use it to browse the web and make calls. I just need it to stay out of my way and not crash.
Maybe deciding that which phone someone uses needs to be a core part of their identity is the actual problem.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m not sure what an iphone user did to you exactly, but seek therapy.
Xylight@lemdro.id 10 hours ago
won’t care? yeah probably. aren’t intelligent enough? that’s an insane generalization, knowledgeable about technology != smart
JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
Be more realistic and try it. You’ll find obsolete and missing information, no review, and no info about opening times. I’d be happy to use it, but quite frankly it lacks all the features I need.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
this is me as well. I’m the /only/ person in my town that updates data on OSM, and if you leave the area its just a void of nothingness. Outside of the automatic survey info that gets added its a ghosttown.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
There are a few around me, but I still find very outdated info and make a bunch of updates. A business left a year ago, and I finally got around to replacing it with the new business.
OSM is great, but it’s super spotting for anything with any amount of variance. It’s fantastic for trains and whatnot that rarely change, but for what most people use Apple Maps/Google Maps for, it’s largely useless.
Luci@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
What the heck did I (an iOS user) do to hurt you???
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Bought from Apple. Voted with your wallet to support the walled garden infrastructure, gave up all of your software freedom for a shiny interface, blue bubbles, and some casual marketing.
And now that users like you realized how fucked you really are once Apple decides it’s time to extract more value from you, now you come crawling to the OSS community for a path out of the walled garden.
I mean, the community will still help you. But I can’t say I like Apple users after years upon years hearing them sing praises about the walled garden and worshipping the company’s abuses at every step of the way. At least we warned you about when this would happen, I suppose. Maybe some of them will realize their mistakes. I doubt it.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
I had four android phones from three different manufacturers die in less than a year, one of them wouldn’t put out any updates after a year either. I went back to iPhone and it lasted for four years.
I’m not voting with my wallet, I’m picking the device that causes the least amount of headache and just fucking works when I need it to. I have to have one of these to keep my job.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
I don’t think you people fully grasp how insufferably dumb you seem with these opinions.
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I wish it were good enough to be a viable alternative but it really isn’t.
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
If it’s missing data (such as locations) that is the issue, then you can update the map yourself and help others migrate at the same time. Every little bit helps, even if you don’t plan on fully moving over. I’ve done over a thousand changes to my local area and it’s actually more accurate than Google Maps in a lot of the commercial areas. You don’t have to do a thousand things though, like I said, every little bit helps.
nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 7 hours ago
Adding onto that, the app StreetComplete makes helping out stupidly easy. You basically get a bunch of quests generatef around you with missing or potentially outdated data that you can fill in by answering simple questions. Basically Pokemon Go, but infinitely more useful.
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It’s not. It’s that the apps that use it have bad UIs and/or don’t support CarPlay. I haven’t found an alternative yet that was usable day to day.
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
To each their own I suppose. CoMaps is great for me, and I’ve never used carplay.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
i recommend people get streetcomplete too so you can help build out osm! :)
jabjoe@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
After that, Apple would ban OSM apps from their store.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I could totally see this happen.
Not in a direct manner, but something about “OSM not living up to Apple’s high standards of privacy” or similar strategy.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
why would they do that when Google Maps and Waze are already bigger competitors?