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extremeboredom@lemmy.world 5 months agoHonestly getting tired of the purity tests. The alternatives are horrific. Google. Apple. Meta. So please find me the FOSS project that is perfectly free of sin which I’m allowed to support.
At this point it begins to feel as though this DDV is only here to write takedown pieces on projects not deemed pure enough for the cause.
FUTO hosted an interview once with a POS guy. Oh, the horror. Please help me understand what that has to do with the existence of a keyboard that isn’t spyware. Yeah no. I’ll keep supporting the working alternatives, you have fun using absolutely nothing because “What if one of the devs wasn’t a good person??!”
I don’t get you people. The founder of FUTO literally platforming a fascist is beyond just purity test level of bad.
I can call Eron out for being a supporter of fascists, while using FUTO keyboard because it doesn’t spy on me, that’s perfectly fine. I don’t get why using their keyboard means you have to defend the horrible position held by the people behind it. Sounds like cognitive dissonance.
I absolutely agree with your statement. Hell, even the GNU project (RMS mostly) had their own scandal a while ago, so if you really insist on being pedantic about this matter feel free on removing practically every piece of open source software from your systems.
Shall I assume you are still a big reiserfs user then?
Why not try someone a bit more relevant than Hans Reiser, there’s plenty to choose from. Like Eric Raymond whose work, at least indirectly, influences more or less everyone using a computer on a daily basis.
They are just saying “why don’t we all just start murdering people”. This is a common trick when you do not have strong arguments for your moral position. You just switch to defending the most extreme position and act like any move away from the point you have chosen is a vote for murder.
You don’t agree with me? Well, I guess it is safe to assume you are an enthusiastic murderer.
Yeah, the keyboard is source available, that’s good enough for me.
Everyone acting like they’ve never heard of “Free as in Freedom not as in Free Beer”
They give you the source. They let you modify it and use it, just don’t make billions off someone else’s freely available work.
How that translates to “most of their stuff is proprietary” and the one smartass that thinks it’s a good argument to say “ffmpeg doesn’t mind their code being used in YouTube, why should you?”
Until we collapse capitalism the billionaires will take our hard work and make billions off of it until they force kill our projects and replace them with proprietary closed source shit. A license that prohibits corporations from making profit off our work is A-OK.
You say the open source line, and then apply it to a project that doesn’t value those values.
Free as in freedom comes without restrictions like commercial use.
If that low bar of source avaialble (last I checked you have to request the source). That’s fine.
But for a lot of FOSS people its not because it means you can never learn from the code, and apply it in your paying job. Or in your own project that suddenly gets big. Then suddenly someone is knocking demanding money.
Its about the community as much about the code.
last I checked you have to request the source)
So you haven’t checked… Good to know you don’t know what you’re making a strong statement about.
Then suddenly someone is knocking demanding money.
No, they don’t come knocking, because you wouldn’t be using the code in your commercial product in the first place, regardless of how small it is.
Donations are not the same thing as paid licenses, and FUTO’s license is bad because it prevents you from funding your fork. But funding doesn’t mean exploitation for profit, which is what corporations like Google do with copyleft code.
Its about the community as much about the code.
Right, community != business.
I want my code to be freely used by all in the community, and I explicitly do not want a corporation to exploit my work for their profit. That’s antithetical to the concept of community.
I’m a fan of the PolyForm Noncommercial License 1.0.0. In an ideal world, the GPL would be sufficient, but we don’t live in an ideal world, we live in an exploitative capitalist run world and they will do everything they can to profit off the labor of and destroy the community that develops open source software.
Fund the development of the code you spin with donations and foundations and whatever you want, but don’t charge for and make profit off others’ labor.
edible_funk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oh don’t worry, it’s only lightly nazi affiliated. Weird that isn’t a deal breaker for you. Well not really weird these days, but it sure says a lot about you.
extremeboredom@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yep you’re right, I’m a Nazi because I use a keyboard developed by a foundation funded by a guy who hosted someone for an interview who is a bad person with bad ideas.
Doesn’t matter who I vote for. Doesn’t matter what I advocate for. The work I do to organize in my community doesn’t matter. All of that is invalidated because of the keyboard I use. I’m a secret Nazi! And I’d have gotten away with it too, if it hadn’t been for that meddling Edible Funk.
You’re the hero we all need here on the Left.
edible_funk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Stand for nothing, fall for everything.
Mcdolan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Stand for everything, achieve nothing.